Tuesday, December 12, 2006

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Today's topics:

* Food for thought - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.nude/browse_thread/thread/ce7d48748620fa6f
* This article is very concerning - raises lots of questions - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.nude/browse_thread/thread/f880b61b202e8a20
* Nudist beach trip with aide wrecks EU chief's job hopes - 4 messages, 3
authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.nude/browse_thread/thread/1160faa84bfdff9c
* Whassup? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.nude/browse_thread/thread/12404cbd367e52be
* Cruising to St Maarten.... - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.nude/browse_thread/thread/8fc3685ba919bf54
* Found a great Free making friends site! www.likeloveorlust.com - 1 messages,
1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.nude/browse_thread/thread/10601bcde24af2be
* Britney Spears to become new President of American Association for Nude
Recreation - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.nude/browse_thread/thread/ba901aa2c95b444c
* What should we think about this guy? - 8 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.nude/browse_thread/thread/8792ca012cadb37e
* www.sex2ube.com - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.nude/browse_thread/thread/c0c1f73a1ede7e01
* If you were unjustly banned:::: - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.nude/browse_thread/thread/323f38edc1cd0462
* DENNIS showing signs of unjustified contempt for Anna - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.nude/browse_thread/thread/ae249cc8e6b74462
* STORY OF THE TORTOISE AND THE HARE too nice must read - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.nude/browse_thread/thread/29c528e221ba1cb9

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TOPIC: Food for thought
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.nude/browse_thread/thread/ce7d48748620fa6f
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 11 2006 10:32 am
From: "Anna"

Mr. "T" wrote:
> Because I enjoy being naked, doesn't make me a nudist,
No you have to be willing to be naked in a nonsexual setting among
other nudists.

>and because I
> don't want to have sex with a man, doesn't make me a lesbian

No, it makes you a healthy hetrosexual male.

>. And if I
> think a naked child is beautiful, I am not necessarily a pedophile.

Well, you are going to have to look into your soul for that one. I
can't say where the attraction is found. I once saw a short video of
some girls (perhaps 12-15) in a Russian Banya. I found the whole thing
intereting since I have never been in a Russian Banya and the girls
looked like they were having fun. Of course I am a female. Perhaps a
male could see the same video and find beauty in it for the same
reasons I did, but I doubt that is who the video was marketed to since
there were only young girls in that video and not any males. That is
what makes the Holy Nature videos so creepy. Because you can look at
it in a nonsexual way and find beauty in it but you know that isn't the
purpose of the video and you know that isn't the reason most people buy
them.

http://www.russianbare.com/

Nudism is just so close to the line of what is wrong (of course many
people would say crosses the line) that you have to be very careful.


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TOPIC: This article is very concerning - raises lots of questions
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.nude/browse_thread/thread/f880b61b202e8a20
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 11 2006 10:42 am
From: "Anna"

Anna wrote:
> One of the advantages of nudist clubs is that they can provide
> protections to their members by being able to remove suspicious members
> at will.
>
> Does this mean that nudists clubs now have to return to a no single
> male policy, at least in Canada?
>
> Why doesn't national nudist organizations have a form letter to send
> out to the media each time they use the term "nudist colony".? Most
> newspapers have a "style guide" the reporters must go by so if the
> newspapers will put on their style guide that "nudist colony" isn't the
> the appropriate term to use, the reporters will stop using that term.
>
> What the Hell is the"International Criminal Court" doing in a remote
> location in Africa? The "International Criminal Court" is scary indeed,
> one day controlling every aspect of our lives the way the Federal
> Government in the US does now.
>
>
> Perhaps. he is lying about being in Africa.

Are all single males perverts? Of course not. Very few are. But here is
the problem. Practically all the perverts are single males. And they
are attracted to nudist clubs. So profiling is too effective in this
case to be ignored. Having single males increase the risk to the club.
And now that Canada says that you can't distinquish between the good
males and the males who give off bad vibes and act inappropriately,
clubs in Canada are going to be forced to adopt a no single male policy.


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TOPIC: Nudist beach trip with aide wrecks EU chief's job hopes
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.nude/browse_thread/thread/1160faa84bfdff9c
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 11 2006 10:46 am
From: "Anna"

Richard C. wrote:
> "Anna" <annaliddell@lycos.com> wrote in message
> news:1165858853.300419.261820@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
> > http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/article2062495.ece
> >
> > Photographs of the most senior German in the European Commission
> > sunbathing naked with a senior female aide have dashed his hopes of
> > becoming the EU's foreign policy chief.
> >
> ================================
> It is only because of narrow minded perverts like you................

I thought Europe was more free and easy about the issue of nudity than
we here in America.

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 11 2006 10:47 am
From: "Anna"

Richard C. wrote:
> "Anna" <annaliddell@lycos.com> wrote in message
> news:1165859020.270314.164610@f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Anna wrote:
> >> http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/article2062495.ece
> >>
> >> Photographs of the most senior German in the European Commission
> >> sunbathing naked with a senior female aide have dashed his hopes of
> >> becoming the EU's foreign policy chief.
> >
> > Here is another article about the same topic.
> >
> > http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-2496216,00.html
> >
> ============================
> It sounds like cheating on his wife was more of an issue than the nudity.

You are probably right. He should have just said he was in a polygamous
relatonship and the Europeans would have been fine about that.

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 11 2006 6:58 pm
From: "D. Kirkpatrick"


In article <1165858853.300419.261820@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com>,
"Anna" <annaliddell@lycos.com> wrote:

> http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/article2062495.ece
>
> Photographs of the most senior German in the European Commission
> sunbathing naked with a senior female aide have dashed his hopes of
> becoming the EU's foreign policy chief.

Where are you getting your news from?

That story has to be at least a week to 10 days old, and delayed by at
least 2 more between Europe and the US.
-----

Why are you compelled to rummage the internet day and night seeking
anything and everything that may be remotely negative about naturism,
or worse, every small bit that talks about nudity and try to draw a
correlation to naturism/nudism?

You have apparently been hurt in the past and are now acting out your
feelings on this captive audience.

That's passive-aggressive behavior.

I strongly urge you to seek assistance from the medical community in
dealing with these emotions and the need to remain anonymous and hide
behind a false identity.

This need to manufacture a "hero" persona behind a virtual super suit
and mask is a "Jesus complex" - you appear to believe that you are
here to save the world from itself.

Please seek the help you need. Please try to recognize the need.

Your need to feed on negative attention is remniscent of a few other
critics that have visited here in the past. Thankfully, they
eventually recognized their problem and got help.

You must have had a very lonely life till this point and cannot
interact with others in a viable relationship. In the end you come
here to poke and prod to get people angry at you for the only form of
attention that you can muster, which in turn validates your self worth.

Please get help. Many of us see this. You need to recognize it.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 11 2006 1:20 pm
From: "Richard C."


"D. Kirkpatrick" <sunclad@sunclad.com> wrote in message
news:sunclad-1B5AE1.13584311122006@news.verizon.net...

> Why are you compelled to rummage the internet day and night seeking
> anything and everything that may be remotely negative about naturism,
> or worse, every small bit that talks about nudity and try to draw a
> correlation to naturism/nudism?

===============================
That is the real question!

I think the answer is that "anna" is obsessed with nudism and addicted to
porn.
Help is required to overcome such things.
===============================


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TOPIC: Whassup?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.nude/browse_thread/thread/12404cbd367e52be
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 11 2006 7:00 pm
From: "D. Kirkpatrick"


In article <1ddfh.8811$tM1.4744@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
"Mark" <allnude@nospammindspring.com> wrote:

> Haven't seen a post through here in 3 days.....

Working fine. Might be Earthlink's NNTP server.

There is something here daily.

If you don't see that, check the Google archive to see what is missing
and if you have an address for the NNTP admin at Google notify him/her.


DMK


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TOPIC: Cruising to St Maarten....
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.nude/browse_thread/thread/8fc3685ba919bf54
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 11 2006 2:27 pm
From: "Anonymous"


We are cruising to St Maarten....and will be docking at Charlotte Amalie.
(We are docking at 8AM...and have to be back on board at 6PM.)

1.) Is it reasonable to hop in a cab to take us to Orient Beach? (What
might the cab cost?)

2.) Should we take a cab? Or is it better to sign up on the cruise for an
"excursion"...that goes to Orient beach? Which would be cheaper and more
efficient time-wise? Is there any benefit to going with the cruise line's
excursion...or hopping in a cab and going yourself.

3.) I heard that Orient Beach is mostly a 'private resort'...and there is a
'public beach'. Where will the cab bring us...where should we ask the cab
to bring us if we want to go to the public beach.

4.) Does the public side of the beach have beach umbrellas? (for rent or
otherwise?) We are fair skinned and don't want to get burned!

5.) What about other facilites? Bathrooms? Bars/waiters?

6.) Is it proper to walk onto the beach with shorts, etc....and simply
disrobe once you've found a spot/blanket/umbrella?

7.) Lunch?

8.) Kids? Teenagers?

9.) Is there a good map online you can point me to....which will show the
layout, etc...where the resort is..where the public beach is....and where
facilities are, etc?

10.) Will sexual activity be visible? are there "swingers" there?

Thanks for your help.

We are looking forward to experiencing public nudity for the first time...

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 11 2006 4:59 pm
From: Paul Sperry


In article <FcKdnZVc5f1cL-DYnZ2dnUVZ_sapnZ2d@comcast.com>, Anonymous
<NO-SPAM@NO.SPAM> wrote:

> We are cruising to St Maarten....and will be docking at Charlotte Amalie.
> (We are docking at 8AM...and have to be back on board at 6PM.)
>
> 1.) Is it reasonable to hop in a cab to take us to Orient Beach? (What
> might the cab cost?)

That would be _very_ expensive (Charlotte Amalie is on St. Thomas.)
Seriously there will be plenty of taxis at the dock - $20 to Orient
last I heard.

> 2.) Should we take a cab? Or is it better to sign up on the cruise for an
> "excursion"...that goes to Orient beach? Which would be cheaper and more
> efficient time-wise? Is there any benefit to going with the cruise line's
> excursion...or hopping in a cab and going yourself.

I'd take a cab. There will be lots to take you back or you can arrange
for your driver to come back for you.

> 3.) I heard that Orient Beach is mostly a 'private resort'...and there is a
> 'public beach'. Where will the cab bring us...where should we ask the cab
> to bring us if we want to go to the public beach.

The whole beach is public. Club Orient is the naturist resort. Tell the
cab that's where you are heading and he will probably drop you off at
Pedros. Club Orient is a few yards to your right as you face the ocean.

> 4.) Does the public side of the beach have beach umbrellas? (for rent or
> otherwise?) We are fair skinned and don't want to get burned!

Lots of chairs and umbrellas for rent all along the beach. At Club O
they go for $6 each.

> 5.) What about other facilites? Bathrooms? Bars/waiters?

Plenty. All along the beach. Good eats too.

> 6.) Is it proper to walk onto the beach with shorts, etc....and simply
> disrobe once you've found a spot/blanket/umbrella?

Sure. It is also proper to walk along the beach nude.

> 7.) Lunch?

A bunch - none of them less than good.

> 8.) Kids? Teenagers?

Usually not too many.

> 9.) Is there a good map online you can point me to....which will show the
> layout, etc...where the resort is..where the public beach is....and where
> facilities are, etc?

<http://home.carolina.rr.com/photos2005/SmallOrientPanorama.htm>

> 10.) Will sexual activity be visible? are there "swingers" there?

I suppose there are swingers everywhere. There will be no public sexual
activities - or not for long at any rate.

> Thanks for your help.
>
> We are looking forward to experiencing public nudity for the first time...

I have the feeling that Orient Beach is nothing like you are imagining
it.
>
>


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TOPIC: Britney Spears to become new President of American Association for Nude
Recreation
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.nude/browse_thread/thread/ba901aa2c95b444c
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TOPIC: What should we think about this guy?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.nude/browse_thread/thread/8792ca012cadb37e
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== 1 of 8 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 11 2006 1:54 pm
From: Bert Clanton


On 2006-12-11 09:16:01 -0800, "Anna" <annaliddell@lycos.com> said:

>
> Bert Clanton wrote:
>
>> As difficult as it may be for you to conceive, a considerable majority
>> of nudist males no longer automatically attach erotic significance to
>> female nudity.
>
> A majority isn't all males. Majority means that there is a minority of
> nudist males who do automatically attach erotic significance to female
> nudity

Which would be bad if there were something wrong with erotic
significance, independent of how such males *behave* toward women to
whom they are attracted. I've got news for you. There are doubtless
many men who *do* get turned on by female nudity, but who are *still*
polite and considerate toward nude women. All us men are *not* beasts,
even the "textiles" among us.

>
> This is not at all to say that those males have become
>> psychological eunuchs: we are just as much attracted to the sexual
>> beauty of some women's bodies as a "textile" male would be, but for us
>> this is pretty much independent of whether the woman is clothed or nude.
>
> Then why is this guy taking pictures of nude females. I thought the
> point of nudism was to be nude yourself not to see other people nude.

For me, the point of nudism is simply to be free of the mistaken belief
that there's something wrong with nude bodies. Also for me personally,
as an intelligent person rather than a nudist, the point of my own
belief system is simply to be free of the mistaken belief that there's
something wrong with being sexually attracted to other people even if
you treat them with respect.

>
>> Whether you like it or not, and obviously you don't, men simply *are*
>> going to be sexually attracted to women, and simply *are* going to like
>> looking at women, nude or clothed.
>
> That is why perhaps it is appropriate for males and females not to be
> nude in front of each other for they will be sexually attracted to
> each other.

...and I personally regard such attraction as one of the most enjoyable
aspects of being a human being, not as some kind of disaster...
>
>> For a "textile" male, female nudity
>> *will* be erotically significant: that's the way he has been
>> socialized, and he hasn't learned any better.
>
> Nudists need to understand that and not produce things like videos of
> naked women like the Holy Nature people do (although they know what
> they are doing).

I'd agree that it's sad if a guy has to get his sexual excitement from
looking at nude women. But as long as the women being looked at are not
being exploited or offended, I don't think that the poor guy is harming
anyone.

>
>> But it really is often
>> the case that for a nudist male in a nudist setting, *his attention
>> simply is not on the fact that a woman is nude*.
>
> Ok, but how about the textile who sees these nude photographs or
> videos?

How about him indeed? Even if he gets aroused, whom is he harming?

>
>> It seems to me that the important question is not whether we males like
>> looking at women, whether they're clothed or nude: we just *do*. The
>> important question is whether we males *behave* politely and
>> considerately toward women, nude or clothed.
>
> Agreed. But a males attitude is very important. Sure we aren't mind
> readers and fortunately our thoughts are our own, but still a male who
> is thinking about it gives off subtle signs through body language, eyes
> and stuff that people can pick up if only on a subconscious level
> ruining the vibe, ruining the atmosphere of the club.

I think it would be way cool if women who feel as you do would take a
more realistic and accepting view of how the male brain works, so long
as the males in question *behave* politely and considerately.

>
>> A majority of us are
>> gentlemen, and we *do* act like gentlemen, at nudist venues and
>> elsewhere.
>
> Good
>
>> Although I behave always in a gentlemanly fashion, I like looking at
>> pictures of attractive women, nude or clothed.
>
> Again, perhaps that is why nudism can't work.

But in fact nudism *does* work, as most nudists, both male and female,
will tell you! You're putting your unsupported speculations up against
the actual experience of the great majority of people who are actually
practicing nudists.

> Once males and females
> get to an age where they are attracted to each other perhaps they
> shouldn't be nude around each other anymore. Perhaps it is naive for
> nudists to think they can retain the state they were in as children.

Perhaps it's even more naive to think that they *should* retain that state!

>
>> If a woman, nude or
>> clothed, enjoys being looked at, and consents to having her picture
>> taken and published, I say more power to her.
>
> That's not nudism. Tha'ts exhibitionism.

Whatever. I like looking at pretty women. I see no reason to apologize
for that fact.

Best wishes,
Bert


== 2 of 8 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 11 2006 2:04 pm
From: Dan Abel


In article <1165861146.654262.154440@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Anna" <annaliddell@lycos.com> wrote:


> My name is Anna

Or Max. Or nw. Or Jeff. I think there have some other names, but I
can't be bothered to remember.

== 3 of 8 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 11 2006 3:49 pm
From: "Zee"


Anna.....careful on those curves...when the train cars are empty and
those ol tracks are wavy...they get to jumping around and if one jumps
the track and going too fast it can be disaster....you got a little too
fast on the.................that is why little kids can go around nude
without it being sexual.......yeah right....this could be true as
everybody in town could take off their clothes and go to walmart and
not one sexual thing would happn but hey that is not worth mentioning
as there is great chance it wont happen thay way......in this day and
age little girls see all the whores on tv and wonder what it is like to
being the bitch in the barn and they are already jack in off and then
they are taken to the nudist camp and they have hard clits from
checking out the guys dicks and all the other kids are seeing this and
some more join in.....and what you said is probably not going to be
true.....careful on those curves....jonZeee.
Anna wrote:

> You get to see the sex organs and adults know what those sex organs are
> for (that is why little kids can go around nude without it being
> sexual).

== 4 of 8 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 11 2006 7:12 pm
From: -T.


On 11 Dec 2006 09:01:18 -0800, "Anna" <annaliddell@lycos.com> wrote:

>
>-T. wrote:
>> On 10 Dec 2006 08:43:55 -0800, "Anna" <annaliddell@lycos.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> >And I am sure that the next book this guy does will be of naked guys,
>> >right?
>>
>> Sure. I mean if someone does a book on landscapes, the next one would
>> have to be on still lifes, right?
>
>The point is that he doesn't do photos of nude men because he isn't
>homosexual so he doesn't get any sexual charge out of seeing nude males
>as he does nude females.

That is your take on it. One based on absolutrly no evidence.
>
>
>> And men, traditionally have such
>> huge self esteem issues surrounding their bodies....
>
>Well at least one part of their body.

Nope, again. You're not very good at this are you?

-T.
(why is your email invalid?)
When the man said alcohol, tobacco, and firearms, I just naturally assumed he was making a delivery.

== 5 of 8 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 11 2006 7:15 pm
From: -T.


On 11 Dec 2006 09:47:41 -0800, "Anna" <annaliddell@lycos.com> wrote:


>How about the 8, 9, 10, 11,12,13, 14, 15, 16, 17 year old photos?

If you are doing a "Century Project" you kinda want those in there,
don't you think?

>I don't think they are porn but I think people could use it as porn.

That is the responsibility of the user. They are not porn. They are
not marketed as porn. Art cannot be based on what someone "might" us
it for.

-T.

When the man said alcohol, tobacco, and firearms, I just naturally assumed he was making a delivery.

== 6 of 8 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 11 2006 7:18 pm
From: -T.


On 11 Dec 2006 10:19:06 -0800, "Anna" <annaliddell@lycos.com> wrote:

>My name is Anna,

Then you shouldn't have posted as Jeff. And answered posts to Jeff
while posting as Anna.

-T.
When the man said alcohol, tobacco, and firearms, I just naturally assumed he was making a delivery.

== 7 of 8 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 11 2006 7:21 pm
From: -T.


On 11 Dec 2006 15:49:19 -0800, "Zee" <jonZeee@webtv.net> admitted
pedophile, misogynist, racist, and Anna's best bud wrote:

>......in this day and
>age little girls see all the whores on tv and wonder what it is like to
>being the bitch in the barn and they are already jack in off and then
>they are taken to the nudist camp and they have hard clits from
>checking out the guys dicks and all the other kids are seeing this and
>some more join in.....

Anna's ally. Bet she's proud.

-T.
When the man said alcohol, tobacco, and firearms, I just naturally assumed he was making a delivery.

== 8 of 8 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 11 2006 7:55 pm
From: -T.


On 11 Dec 2006 06:14:09 -0800, "Zee" <jonZeee@webtv.net> admitted
pedophile, misogynist, racist, and proven liar, crawled over to the
keyboard just long enough to drool:

>man O man what a catch....GOTCHA...i have not ever heard of a complaint
>on the planet earth regarding pictures that might appear in the
>newspaper or tv or on a telephone post of children fully clothed on a
>school ground....

Howitt, D. Pornography and the paedophile: Is it criminogenic? British
Journal of Medical Psychology, 1995 68:15-27.
Abstract: Presents case studies of 11 fixated adult male pedophiles
interviewed in a private clinic for sex offenders about topics
including their offending, their psychosexual histories, pornography,
fantasy, and sexual abuse in childhood. Commercial pornography was
rarely a significant aspect of their use of erotica although some
experience of such materials was typical. Most common was "soft-core"
heterosexually oriented pornography. Explicit child pornography was
uncommon. However, Subjects also generated their own erotic materials
from relatively innocuous sources such as television advertisements,
clothing catalogs featuring children modeling underwear, and similar
sources. In no case did exposure to pornography precede
offending-related behavior in childhood.

I could find more if you wish.

>....of course pedos are
>not interested in this type photography.....

Demonstrably false. See above.

>my cell phone will take
>those videos as i drive down the street....but in this sordid depraved
>world no one is interested in those photos....

Demonstrably false.

>as all the pedo are
>interested in the naked photos....

Demonstrably false.

>.i know T ...you had a bad week last
>week...

I had a great week. Always a pleasure doing business with you Jon.

>.....and yes i would encourage all folks to listen to what a
>pedo has to say because he relates how a pedo thinks.....

Well, since YOU are our RESIDENT PEDO....I imagine that you would
enjoy the attention.

-T.


When the man said alcohol, tobacco, and firearms, I just naturally assumed he was making a delivery.


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TOPIC: If you were unjustly banned::::
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.nude/browse_thread/thread/323f38edc1cd0462
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 11 2006 5:06 pm
From: "sportbug"


from a nudist website, or you think you were unfairly treated right,
there are always ways to enter any sites, especially any that requires
valid email registry.

1. First thing, you do need an internet service provider

2. second, buy yourself a laptop on top of the home desktop computer.

3. Get yourself a Broadband wireless routers for one of your
computers. With this broadband wireless, you can access many
internet service providers using someone elses...wireless (your using
off of someone elses cannot be traced, a lot of times you do not need
to enter a password)

4. If you cannot enter a site with your valid email address, may I
suggest you use your friends email address(es)? Get as many as you
can, but make sure you have your friends permission using their email
address(es) in respect before logging into a site. The owner of any
sites will sure have a difficult or impossible time validating
especailly when you have your trusted friends. If the owner(s)
validated wrongly or by mistake, the site(s) can go to hell.

Make sure you follow all the written rules like I had all along.

There are always C r A c K s to slip through

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 11 2006 7:59 pm
From: -T.


On 11 Dec 2006 17:06:43 -0800, "sportbug" <mhecc@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>from a nudist website, or you think you were unfairly treated right,

and your name is sportbug, then you were undoubtedly banned for a good
reason. Pull your head out and smell the fresh air, pal. There is a
reason you keep getting negative responses from the world around you.

-T.
When the man said alcohol, tobacco, and firearms, I just naturally assumed he was making a delivery.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 11 2006 10:02 pm
From: "sportbug"


You were not there. Of course, some negative responses created by
trying to make things right. But, heck, I gotten over it, but still
not right.

-T. wrote:
> On 11 Dec 2006 17:06:43 -0800, "sportbug" <mhecc@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> >from a nudist website, or you think you were unfairly treated right,
>
> and your name is sportbug, then you were undoubtedly banned for a good
> reason. Pull your head out and smell the fresh air, pal. There is a
> reason you keep getting negative responses from the world around you.
>
> -T.
> When the man said alcohol, tobacco, and firearms, I just naturally assumed he was making a delivery.


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TOPIC: DENNIS showing signs of unjustified contempt for Anna
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.nude/browse_thread/thread/ae249cc8e6b74462
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 11 2006 11:51 pm
From: "Zee"


Dennis....Anna has never answered name calling posters addressed to her
with same....all things considered she has conducted herself with
utmost professionalism......a real all american woman....with spunk and
idealism and a sense of caring for children......OTOH...hard core
nudist with out these same qualities but a jest for in your face
militancy directed at the american clothes wearing
public....ref...operating in a non moderated NG where children can
easily access and conservative adults that are naturally offended by
folks that advocate exposing their crotches to children as well as
adults....is a contemptuous ploy directed at the general public....in
itself.... not one statement she has made in regards to social nudism
has been unreasonable in the minds of the textile public.....so how
about it.....you know and i know that nudist are never prodded in their
moderated groups as concerned citizens for a moral america do not go
there.....as they would not go to any anti social behavior
NG....ref....criminal or promiscuous anti family type behavior.....so
now you understand what you militant nudist have to do to escape the
ridicule that you have long endured that was justified....as i would
say that rec nude has never been a tool of recruitment for gains in the
world of social nudism...rather a loss....so what are you guys doing
here.......jonZeee


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TOPIC: STORY OF THE TORTOISE AND THE HARE too nice must read
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.nude/browse_thread/thread/29c528e221ba1cb9
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Dec 12 2006 12:33 am
From: "avtarsaini.84@gmail.com"


Read the story of STORY OF THE TORTOISE AND THE HARE
http://www.singhisking.net/toroiseandhare.html

To sum up, the story of the hare and tortoise teaches us many things:


Never give up when faced with failure
Fast and consistent will always beat slow and steady
Work to your competencies
Compete against the situation, not against a rival.
Pooling resources and working as a team will always beat individual
performers


Let's go and build stronger teams!


AVTAR - Always a good friend.

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