Tuesday, March 13, 2007

[Mind's Eye] Re: Gender Equality

Why should I? I was talking to you. You asked for a point. I gave you
one.

On Mar 13, 1:37 pm, DubiousChrisJ <digitalprecip...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Donnadonne,
> since you are clearly on a different topic than everyone else in this
> thread, albeit a worthy one, why don't you start a seperate thread to
> address it?
>
> On 3/13/07, donnadonne <donnado...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I'm sorry but what you are saying is ridiculous. I hope you don't
> > seriously suggest that all people in whole wide world were good until
> > 1933 the Nazi party came into power in Germany.
> > I was talking about language and its mirroring function of
> > sociohistorical processes.
>
> > But if you're into points, here is one you might like:
>
> > Thesis: WINSTON Churchill suggested the Jewish people were "partly
> > responsible for the antagonism from which they suffer"
>
> >http://www.admin.cam.ac.uk/news/press/dpp/2007030901
>
> >http://news.scotsman.com/uk.cfm?id=385482007
>
> >http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/article2347525.ece
>
> > On Mar 13, 12:58 am, DubiousChrisJ <digitalprecip...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > From your link:
>
> > > 1326 (implied in scummer "shallow ladle for removing scum"), from
> > > M.Du. schume "foam, froth," from P.Gmc. *skuma- (cf. O.N. skum, O.H.G.
> > > scum, Ger. Schaum "foam, froth"), perhaps from PIE base *(s)keu- "to
> > > cover, conceal" (see hide (n.1)). Sense deteriorated from "thin layer
> > > atop liquid" to "film of dirt," then just "dirt." Meaning "lowest
> > > class of humanity" is 1586; scum of the Earth is from 1712. Adopted in
> > > Romanic, cf. O.Fr. escume, Mod.Fr. écume, Sp. escuma, It. schiuma.
> > > Adj. scummy first attested 1577; transf. sense of "filthy,
> > > disreputable" is recorded from 1932. Slang scumbag "condom" is from
> > > 1967; meaning "despicable person" is from 1971.
>
> > > It gives a much older meaning, and it does not reference Nazis. The
> > > Nazi party is not even considered to have begun until 1933.
>
> > > Do you have a point?
>
> > > On 3/12/07, donnadonne <donnado...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Oh hideous hypocrites ... no man alive can kill the thread that has
> > > > been spun.
>
> > > > It doesn't surprise me that you naturally assume that I have come
> > > > unprepared. I'm fully aware though that donnadonne can be erased at
> > > > any moment without notice and without being noticed.
>
> > > > Let's go through your findings first, if you don't mind.
>
> > > > The linked source that you suggest defines "common, vulgar,
> > > > disreputable" as the basic meaning of the word "low-life". The basic
> > > > meaning is not defined as "criminal". You misread. The criminal aspect
> > > > of the meaning can be attained in and through its plural form. As its
> > > > second meaning. As a result, you might say. Still that word alone
> > > > didn't bother me more than many other politically incorrect words.
>
> > > > And now let me show you what I found for "scum":
>
> > > >http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=scum&searchmode=none
>
> > > > The main emphasis that your verbal exchange centers around here is the
> > > > woman's reputation. In that sense it was first recorded in 1932. Thus
> > > > the Nazi reference.
>
> > > > Unholy combinations.
>
> > > > On Mar 11, 11:31 pm, DubiousChrisJ <digitalprecip...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Oh lord...and thus, the thread is killed as someone brings in the
> > > > > inimitable Nazi reference.
>
> > > > > First, Donnadonne, lowlife is a word invented in the 1700's which
> > > > > basically means criminal.
>
> > > > >http://www.allwords.com/word-low-life.html
>
> > > > > Secondly, your baseless assumption that I am projecting, as opposed to
> > > > > simply voicing my opinion on a topic I am very familiar with,
> > > > > illustrates that you are not actually reasonably analyzing my posts,
> > > > > but simply firing passive ad hominems. This immediately devalues
> > > > > anything you have to say.
>
> > > > > Third, your attempt at patronization in the close of your statement
> > > > > clearly displays your ignorance of the group in general, considering I
> > > > > am one of the more veteran members here, and a list moderator.
>
> > > > > So, if you would like to discuss the socioeconomic factors which help
> > > > > create inequities, than feel free to do so. If you want to instead act
> > > > > like a smart ass child attempting to be witty and clever among adults,
> > > > > then expect to be treated as such.
>
> > > > > On 3/11/07, donnadonne <donnado...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > The term "lowlife scum" is rooted in Nazi ideology. What you mean is
> > > > > > probably some sort of projection problem you are working on. But feel
> > > > > > free to say whatever is on your mind in your own words here in this
> > > > > > group. You are amongst friends. What other facts would you like us to
> > > > > > talk about?
>
> > > > > > On Mar 11, 7:02 pm, DubiousChrisJ <digitalprecip...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > Now that we've heard all the standard responses about inequality and
> > > > > > > racism, let's deal with the facts, shall we?
>
> > > > > > >http://www.guardian.co.uk/video/page/0,,2028548,00.html
>
> > > > > > > She's extremely aggressive, attempts to break away multiple times, and
> > > > > > > in the action which culminated in her being struck, flexed so hard
> > > > > > > that she knocked both herself and the arresting officer down the
> > > > > > > stairs.
>
> > > > > > > I'm quick to decry abuse of government power, but I'm quicker to call
> > > > > > > bullshit on those who use race and gender as a defense against the
> > > > > > > consequences of their own actions. Inequity and inequality has truly
> > > > > > > existed, and truly hurt and killed. For lowlife scum to attempt to use
> > > > > > > these things as a reason for their treatment is sickening.
>
> > > > > > > What makes it worse is that Toni Comer has said that she believes she
> > > > > > > had an epileptic fit which resulted in her resisting arrest. Watch the
> > > > > > > video. Anyone who has ever seen an epileptic fit, or knows someone
> > > > > > > with epilepsy, will be appalled.
>
> > > > > > > I think they should hit her again for lying and misrepresenting the
> > > > > > > situation, and muddying the waters of true inequities.
>
> > > > > > > On 3/11/07, paradox <eadohe...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Thank you K e v; should be interesting to see the follow-up on this...
>
> > > > > > > > On 11 Mar, 10:18, "kev" <kevir...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Gee, your thoughts above seem pretty coherent to me..Must be getting
> > > > > > > > > my second wind!!!!
>
> > > > > > > > > That explanation deserves a "well said!!!!" and so I said...Sometimes
> > > > > > > > > you find you like the way a person thinks; might not always agree, but
> > > > > > > > > still you wanna hear what that person has to say......
>
> > > > > > > > > I like this forum,
> > > > > > > > > K e v
>
> > > > > > > > > On Mar 11, 5:53 am, "paradox" <eadohe...@hotmail.com> wrote: (in part)
>
> > > > > > > > > Kev, laid out my thoughts on this to my reply post to KC, see above.
>
> > > > > > > > > You want to slow down a little with all that physical activity...;)


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