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[Mind's Eye] Re: Shark fact

2007-03-14T15:12:00.000-07:00

There's a good start, Ian....;))

On 14 Mar, 22:01, "Ian Pollard" <ian.poll...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Please help.

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[Mind's Eye] Re: TRUST

2007-03-14T15:10:00.001-07:00

Hmm...

On 14 Mar, 19:54, "kev" <kevir...@comcast.net> wrote:
> That is a good set of questions....
>
> Answering, in no particular order, trust is something bestowed on
> another individual. It's something you **give**, more than something
> you **have** ["trusting people" are sometimes referred to as being
> naïve or gullible]. It's a form of belief in the character and worth
> of another human being.
>
> It's basis for existence could be either an intuitive "feeling" about
> an individual or repeated actions by the individual demonstrating
> unwavering reliability {a friend in need, is a friend indeed!! ---- I
> love clichés).
>
> As far as intangibles go, it should rank on a par with "true love"
> and is probably just as rare. To "trust" and to "be trusted" are not
> necessarily mutually co-existent in any given situation between two
> individuals. Personally, I am more likely to "be trusted" than to
> "trust" {yes, it's another character flaw....I've got a lot more "higher
> priority" issues to fix before I get to this one....}....
>
> I almost said In My Humble Opinion........oops,
>
> K e v

[Mind's Eye] Re: TRUST

2007-03-14T15:09:00.001-07:00

I like the approach; raises some further questions. What is the basis
of "trust given freely"? How does one "earn" trust? Is there an
objective standard?

You also raise a good point about the distinction between Trust
between individuals, and Trust between the individual and
organisations; there's a huge area of interest here. Are they the same
concepts, with the same rights and obligations?

Generally speaking, sadly i think you're right about the devaluation
of Trust across human relations. Leads to a key question about how we
articulate and set expectations regarding Trust. When i say "I trust
you", what exactly do i mean? Is it directed? Is it emotional? Is it
"probabilistic"? Or is it a combination of all three?

I'd never have guessed you were a "cynic"...;) So tell me, how does
"cynical libertarianism" work?

On 14 Mar, 15:33, DubiousChrisJ <digitalprecip...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It seems to me that there are two approaches to trust:
>
> Trust given freely, until betrayed.
>
> Trust with held, until earned.
>
> The first likely leads to the second. Being the skeptic that I am, I
> have to say that has been the case for me. The good thing about being
> a cynic is that you are never disappointed.
>
> Socially, we have several entities that we are generally encouraged to
> trust, such as Law Enforcement, the Government, the Church, etc.
> Often, as time goes on, we are disillusioned with these entities, and
> begin to with hold trust, or actively distrust. Leadership, in any
> democratic form, is based on the trust of those being led that the
> leader will act in their best interests.
>
> Interestingly enough, it seems that if trust is betrayed often enough,
> the trusting begin to stop caring about betrayal. (See American
> Politics, for example).
>
> On 3/14/07, paradox <eadohe...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > How do we define Trust? Are there multiple forms and applications of
> > Trust? Where does Trust rank in our heirarchy of social value. How do
> > we determine the contingent values of Trust. In the main, do we apply
> > these values intuitively, or in a structured and thoughtful way?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

17 new messages in 9 topics - digest

2007-03-14T15:02:00.001-07:00

misc.invest.options
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.invest.options?hl=en

misc.invest.options@googlegroups.com

Today's topics:

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TOPIC: Delta-gamma neutral hedging?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.invest.options/browse_thread/thread/b19cc711ad2bf943?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 13 2007 10:06 pm
From: Dr Tormento

"DarkProtoman" <Protoman2050@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1173753947.602945.257410@t69g2000cwt.googlegroups.com:

> What's the purpose of delta-gamma neutral hedging? I understand you
> won't lose money, but, conversely, you won't gain money either.
>
> I buy a XYZ 50 call option w/ a delta of 20, and short 20 to hedge
> it. The call's delta rises to 30 next day, so I short an additional 10
> shares to keep it hedged. Day after that, the call's delta falls to
> 10, so I cover 20 shares to keep the call hedged.
>
> What's the purpose of this? Please explain this to me.

It pays the tuition bills for your broker's kid.

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 13 2007 6:20 pm
From: "DarkProtoman"

On Mar 13, 3:06 pm, Dr Tormento <r...@togroup.com> wrote:
> "DarkProtoman" <Protoman2...@gmail.com> wrote innews:1173753947.602945.257410@t69g2000cwt.googlegroups.com:
>
> > What's the purpose of delta-gamma neutral hedging? I understand you
> > won't lose money, but, conversely, you won't gain money either.
>
> > I buy a XYZ 50 call option w/ a delta of 20, and short 20 to hedge
> > it. The call's delta rises to 30 next day, so I short an additional 10
> > shares to keep it hedged. Day after that, the call's delta falls to
> > 10, so I cover 20 shares to keep the call hedged.
>
> > What's the purpose of this? Please explain this to me.
>
> It pays the tuition bills for your broker's kid.

Give me a USABLE answer for why gamma scalping is used.

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 14 2007 9:40 am
From: "BlueTrin"

On Mar 14, 1:20 am, "DarkProtoman" <Protoman2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 13, 3:06 pm, Dr Tormento <r...@togroup.com> wrote:
>
> > "DarkProtoman" <Protoman2...@gmail.com> wrote innews:1173753947.602945.257410@t69g2000cwt.googlegroups.com:
>
> > > What's the purpose of delta-gamma neutral hedging? I understand you
> > > won't lose money, but, conversely, you won't gain money either.
>
> > > I buy a XYZ 50 call option w/ a delta of 20, and short 20 to hedge
> > > it. The call's delta rises to 30 next day, so I short an additional 10
> > > shares to keep it hedged. Day after that, the call's delta falls to
> > > 10, so I cover 20 shares to keep the call hedged.
>
> > > What's the purpose of this? Please explain this to me.
>
> > It pays the tuition bills for your broker's kid.
>
> Give me a USABLE answer for why gamma scalping is used.

Arthur did ...

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 14 2007 1:05 pm
From: arthur

what you made on one leg you lost on the other

gamma decreases and delta movement falls when moving away from ATM

who's the con artist?

On 12 Mar 2007 20:07:09 -0700, "DarkProtoman" <Protoman2050@gmail.com>
wrote:

>What's the purpose of delta-gamma neutral hedging? I understand you
>won't lose money, but, conversely, you won't gain money either.
>
> I buy a XYZ 50 call option w/ a delta of 20, and short 20 to hedge
>it. The call's delta rises to 30 next day, so I short an additional 10
>shares to keep it hedged. Day after that, the call's delta falls to
>10, so I cover 20 shares to keep the call hedged.
>
>What's the purpose of this? Please explain this to me.

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TOPIC: Recommended books/resources on options trading?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.invest.options/browse_thread/thread/daa95d01eaca80aa?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 13 2007 3:47 pm
From: "uncle_vito"

I did quite well with the options today, black tuesday #2. Last weekend I
had a heart to heart with myself and decided that I had too much loss
exposure with my March options. I added up the worse case losses and didn't
like what I saw. I wrote a strategy of which options possibly could be in
the money, which had no chance and which were mildly in the money but whose
fortune could change. Luck was with me on Monday since it was an UP day. I
lightened up about 33% on my options selling both moderate losers and
gainers for a realized gain/loss of about 0.

I feared further correction so I bought 5 put contracts on the S&P expiring
in 4 days for about $2500 total. That saved my bacon today. I closed out
that position with a $6000 gain and, of course, with the drop today, all of
my March calls will expire worthless. Many of the expensive calls were
spreads, so when those expire, I keep the premium.

I set up another S&P put spread for April expiration anticipating that the
S&P could get to 1360 before this correction is over with. Bought 10 ATM
(April 1380) puts at a total of $23000 and shorted 10 OTM (April 1370) puts
for a premium of $19,000. Total cash outlay was $4000. Max upside
potential is $10,000. My long puts have alread gone into the money about
$2.

Vito

"arthur" <trash.all.spam@xoxy.net> wrote in message
news:kf8ev296o2utum3hg911d6m43ivptpgkvh@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:49:55 -0700, "uncle_vito"
> <uncle_vito2002@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>options there is the collar. If you think the stock may move alot but are
>>not sure of the direction, there is the straddle and strangle.
>
> Collar is a Conversion .... used by MM and arbs. Can be duplicated by
> Spreads.
>
> S&S are too risky. if long you are paying for the loser. won't even
> discuss the short straddle strangle
>
>>I used to just buy puts and calls. Writing covered calls was OK but
>>rather
>>tame.
>
> CC = short Puts ( synthetic equivalence )

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TOPIC: GREAT DAY FOR THE MARKET - DOWN OVER 2%
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.invest.options/browse_thread/thread/13a354e8666d9428?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 13 2007 4:12 pm
From: "masterdaytrader"

FIND OUT WHY AT http://moneymaker-masterdaytrader.blogspot.com/

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TOPIC: INGENIUS WAY TO MAKE MONEY!
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.invest.options/browse_thread/thread/b4cc6c1926ac434e?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 14 2007 2:49 am
From: "JaxKnight"

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. Anyway, it said that you send $1.00 to each of the 6 names and
address stated in the article. You then place your own name and
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least 200 newsgroups.(There are thousands) No catch, that was it. So
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If all of the following instructions are adhered to, you will receive
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Please continue its success by carefully adhering to the
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this business your product is not solid and tangible, it's a service.
You are in the business of developing Mailing Lists. Many large
corporations are happy to pay big bucks for quality lists. However,
the money made from the mailing lists is secondary to the income which
is made from people like you and me asking to be included in that
list. Here are the 4 easy steps to success:

STEP 1: Get 6 separate pieces of paper and write the following on
each piece of paper;PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST. Now get 6 US
$1.00 bills and place ONE inside EACH of the 6 pieces of paper so the
bill will not be seen through the envelope (to prevent thievery).
Next, place one paper in each of the 6 envelopes and seal them. You
should now have 6 sealed envelopes, each with a piece of paper stating
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are doing is creating a service.

THIS IS ABSOLUTELY LEGAL! You are requesting a legitimate service and
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Mail the 6 envelopes to the following addresses: #1) Pamela Marmolejo
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Springs, NY #4) Justin Butler 7201 Spencer Hwy #251 Pasadena, TX 77505
#5) Andrew Wiester 1710 Lakewood Terrance #204 Belton, MO 64012 #6)
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STEP 2: Now take the #1 name off the list that you see above, move
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All you need is 200, but remember, the more you post, the more money
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again, and again.

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NOTE: You may want to retain every name and address sent to you,
either on a computer or hard copy and keep the notes people send you.

This VERIFIES that you are truly providing a service. (Also, it might
be a good idea to wrap the $1 bill in dark paper to reduce the risk of
mail theft.) So, as each post is downloaded and the directions
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Your name will move up the list geometrically so that when your name
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first six people listed above) Send it now, add your own name to the
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---DIRECTIONS ----- FOR HOW TO POST TO NEWSGROUPS------------ Step 1)
You do not need to re-type this entire letter to do your own posting.
Simply put your cursor at the beginning of this letter and drag your
cursor to the bottom of this document, and select 'copy' from the edit
menu. This will copy the entire letter into the computer's memory.
Step 2) Open a blank 'notepad' file and place your cursor at the top
of the blank page. From the 'edit' menu select 'paste'.

This will paste a copy of the letter into notepad so that you can add
your name to the list. Step 3) Save your new notepad file as a .txt
file. If you want to do your postings in different settings, you'll
always have this file to go back to. Step 4) Use Netscape or Internet
explorer and try searching for various newsgroups (on-line forums,
message boards, chat sites, discussions.)

Step 5) Visit these message boards and post this article as a new
message by highlighting the text of this letter and selecting paste
from the edit menu. Fill in the Subject, this will be the header that
everyone sees as they scroll through the list of postings in a
particular group, click the post message button. You're done with your
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different newsgroups and post away, after you get the hang of it, it
will take about 30 seconds for each newsgroup!
**REMEMBER, THE MORE NEWSGROUPS YOU POST IN, THE MORE MONEY YOU WILL
MAKE!! BUT YOU HAVE TO POST A MINIMUM OF 200** That's it! You will
begin receiving money from around the world within days! You may
eventually want to rent a P.O.Box due to the large amount of mail you
will receive. If you wish to stay anonymous, you can invent a name to
use, as long as the postman will deliver it.**JUST MAKE SURE ALL THE
ADDRESSES ARE CORRECT.**

Now the WHY part: Out of 200 postings, say I receive only 5 replies (a
very low example). So then I made $5.00 with my name at #6 on the
letter. Now, each of the 5 persons who just sent me $1.00 make the
MINIMUM 200 postings, each with my name at #5 and only 5 persons
respond to each of the original 5, that is another $25.00 for me, now
those 25 each make 200 MINIMUM posts with my name at #4 and only 5
replies each, I will bring in an additional $125.00! Now, those 125
persons turn around and post the MINIMUM 200 with my name at #3 and
only receive 5 replies each, I will make an additional $626.00! OK,
now here is the fun part, each of those 625 persons post a MINIMUM 200
letters with my name at #2 and they each only receive 5 replies, that
just made me $3,125.00!!! Those 3,125 persons will all deliver this
message to 200 newsgroups with my name at #1 and if still 5 persons
per 200 newsgroups react I will receive $15,625,00! With an original
investment of only $6.00! AMAZING!

When your name is no longer on the list, you just take the latest
posting in the newsgroups, and send out another $6.00 to names on the
list, putting your name at number 6 again. And start posting again.
The thing to remember is: do you realize that thousands of people all
over the world are joining the internet and reading these articles
everyday?, JUST LIKE YOU are now!!

So, can you afford $6.00 and see if it really works?? I think so...
People have said, &quote;what if the plan is played out and no one
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when there are tons of new honest users and new honest people who are
joining the internet and newsgroups everyday and are willing to give
it a try? Estimates are at 20,000 to 50,000 new users, every day, with
thousands of those joining the actual internet. Remember: play FAIRLY
and HONESTLY and this will really work.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 14 2007 12:50 pm
From: "ProfHenryHiggins"

On Mar 14, 1:49 am, "JaxKnight" <cdk362007@yahoo.com> wrote:
> The first and most important thing to do is to read this email if you
> are serious about making money. I found this article on a bulletin
> board and decided to try it. A little while back, I was browsing
> through a message board, and came across an article similar to this
> that said you could make thousands of dollars within weeks with only
> an initial investment of $6.00! So I thought, Yeah right, this must be
> a scam, but like most of us, I was curious, so I kept reading

Now here are some websites that explain why this "legal" letter of
yours is about the stupidest piece of criminal crap you could have
fallen for.

First of all, here's a letter at a scholarly site where it was used
as part of someone's thesis paper. Read his comments:
http://www.silcom.com/~barnowl/chain-letter/archive/me2005-08_retired_s$6n6q200.htm

Next we have Karen. Her life was RUINED by starting one such letter:
http://karenliddell.etee2k.net/

A warning from the Better Business Bureau:
http://www.grandrapids.bbb.org/AlertDetlea9a.html?ID=104

Someone's blog, with some rather telling points:
http://www.mr-miata.net/?p=2176

Another blog:
http://www.kshay.com/archives/2007/01/dont_get_me_wrong_im_mailing_i.php

A scathing bad review:
http://www.lunenburg.org/wade/articles/2004/11/10/chain-gang

Discussion of the Australian variant, and just how stupid you have to
be to believe it:
http://www.mmfhoh.org/index.php?title=david_rhodes_scheme_appears_in_melbourne&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1

A recent newspaper column about this letter:
http://www.cleveland.com/business/plaindealer/sheryl_harris/index.ssf?/base/business/1170496709253970.xml&coll=2

An Internet FAQ. Look up Dick Hollman on it:
http://isaacrtree.tripod.com/internet.htm

Another BBB warning, about Internet scams in general:
http://1063thebear.com/files/HOT_TOPICS.pdf

A major consumer protection website's take on the subject:
http://www.stopspam.org/usenet/mmf/mmf_variants.html

The results of someone's private investigation into the letter:
http://demo.capris.com/Makemoremoney/investigate.cfm

> Mail the 6 envelopes to the following addresses: #1) Pamela Marmolejo
> 1055 Cardiff Way Beaumont, CA 92223 #2) Lea Vigil 5212 Arden Drive
> Temple City, CA 91780 #3) Raymond Howe 214 Jones Road, Lot 24 Saratoga
> Springs, NY #4) Justin Butler 7201 Spencer Hwy #251 Pasadena, TX 77505
> #5) Andrew Wiester 1710 Lakewood Terrance #204 Belton, MO 64012 #6)
> Curtis D. Knight 1108 N.3RD McGregor Texas 76657

And, in this day and age, you may want to consider what perverts and
con men may be harvesting your mailing address from such letters.

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TOPIC: FOREX TREND FOLLOWING SECRETS
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.invest.options/browse_thread/thread/f26af680085aaf22?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 14 2007 6:13 am
From: "masterdaytrader"

On Mar 12, 4:10 pm, "Charlie" <cfw...@gmail.com> wrote:

The english language is ALSO CHANGING. Their is NO SUCH THING AS
CORRECT ENGLISH ANYMORE!

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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 14 2007 7:34 am
From: schmekelfutz@yahoo.com

A few days ago I decided to buy to close an options position, which
had shown 0 - 0.05 bid/ask for several consecutive days. So, to save
a few bucks by not placing a limit order, I placed a market order at
the open to buy to close. Well, wouldn't you know it, my trade was
executed at $0.10! This even though, there had not been a trade for
0.10 for several days.

I, of course, violated the most elementary rule of all: Never, ever,
place a market order at the open! Someone is likely to rip you off if
at all possible, which is what happened to me.

My broker (Etrade), to its credit, went to bat for me and got the
execution reversed and then done at $0.05.

BTW, I came from Brownco and was at first skeptical when transferred
to Etrade. I have found their service to be very good, and, most
importantly, their execution of my options orders to be very good as
well.

FWIW.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 14 2007 1:09 pm
From: arthur

never place an option market order period

you get more bang for your money and maybe save a liitte too at one of
the option brokers like OX, TOS, or IB

On 14 Mar 2007 07:34:27 -0700, schmekelfutz@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>I, of course, violated the most elementary rule of all: Never, ever,
>place a market order at the open! Someone is likely to rip you off if
>at all possible, which is what happened to me.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 14 2007 2:54 pm
From: schmekelfutz@yahoo.com

On Mar 14, 4:09 pm, arthur <trash.all.s...@xoxy.net> wrote:
> never place an option market order period
>
> you get more bang for your money and maybe save a liitte too at one of
> the option brokers like OX, TOS, or IB
>

Thanks, Arthur. I know IB has lower commissions, but from what I read
you can never talk to anyone. Other than that, how do you get more
bang for your money with these brokers? Thanks again.

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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 14 2007 9:40 am
From: "es330td"

On Mar 12, 8:00 pm, arthur <trash.all.s...@xoxy.net> wrote:
> Try computing your option cost based on the bid ask spread.
>

Can you explain this? The extent of my options experience is covered
calls so for me the commission was key, especially since I started out
doing just one contract at a time. A $7 vs a $28 commission is a HUGE
difference when you sell a call at $1.00.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 14 2007 1:02 pm
From: arthur

ouch. move to OX, TOS, or IB

a 5cent bid ask spread is $50 if 10 contracts and that is a cheap
spread.

On 14 Mar 2007 09:40:15 -0700, "es330td" <es330td@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Mar 12, 8:00 pm, arthur <trash.all.s...@xoxy.net> wrote:
>> Try computing your option cost based on the bid ask spread.
>>
>
>Can you explain this? The extent of my options experience is covered
>calls so for me the commission was key, especially since I started out
>doing just one contract at a time. A $7 vs a $28 commission is a HUGE
>difference when you sell a call at $1.00.
>
>

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 14 2007 1:33 pm
From: "es330td"

On Mar 14, 5:02 pm, arthur <trash.all.s...@xoxy.net> wrote:
> ouch. move to OX, TOS, or IB
>
I think you missed what I was saying (or maybe not.) On a $25-30
stock I'd sell a slightly OTM call at around 1.00, netting me $100 -
$8.25. At numbers that small it made a huge difference. Since I was
OTM the strike was high enough to cover commissions if it did go up
and this was in an IRA so I didn't care about cap gains.

> a 5cent bid ask spread is $50 if 10 contracts and that is a cheap
> spread.
>
I don't think you got my question. I understand bid/ask spread. I
don't understand how that comes into play in picking a broker. Here's
an example: the Apr MSFT 27.50 bid ask on quote.yahoo.com is
$0.69/$0.72. On OX under the virtual trader the spread is .67/.69,
one cent smaller. What does the difference in spreads mean to me an
an investor in the context of your statement?

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 14 2007 10:43 am
From: chmivusigvmb@yahoo.com

There IS money to be made in the Forex market. But it is securely
locked up in a vault with one of the thickest doors you will ever
find. The key to opening that vault is to know when to enter a trade
and when to exit.
True, you also have to conquer the six common reasons for failure:
Poor understanding and knowledge
Undercapitalization
Unrealistic expectations
Lack of patience
Lack of discipline
High risk aversion
You can have an excellent understanding of financial markets,
realistic expectations, plenty of trading capital and nerves of steel
and still fail, because you need a tested and proven entry / exit
system. You need to know when to get in, when to get out, and you need
to understand why.
Why do we keep repeating this?
Because it's important. In fact this is the only thing that is
stopping you from cleaning up the market and pushing money into your
account until it is almost bursting at the seams!
Look, if you fail in the foreign exchange markets you only have
yourself to blame.
There are no forces out there controlling prices, like you might think
after watching too many Oliver Stone movies. There's no "source" you
must get closer to in order to become a winning trader.
Although, don't get me wrong. Some people do profit from your losses.
They are:
Your dealer/broker
Your ISP and software vendors
Traders who are better than you.
And another thing. There is no easy route to accumulating a trading
fortune.
We hear people claiming you can become wealthy by trading forex for
only a couple hours a month. They're dreamers! If you are not willing
to invest your time and effort, don't even start. Trading success
doesn't come free and easy. You get out what you put in!
But also, it doesn't matter which direction a currency pair is
trending. The only thing you need to make money is volatility. You're
after are those nice fat intra and multiday swings, and as we all know
there are plenty of these large swings in today's surging forex
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 14 2007 11:19 am
From: usgodbole@gmail.com

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and the borrowers have no defence as used to have in regular laws such
as Civil Procedure Code etc., The bank considers as above law and
since the Government is backing them with such totally one sided laws,
the borrowers are left with no alternative but to accept whatever
injustice is forced upon them. The court's hands are tied due to thes
laws.

We have, over a period of few years have come up with proper defence
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In case you are interested to know more, ou may write to me at my
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[Mind's Eye] Re: Shark fact

2007-03-14T15:01:00.000-07:00

Erwin,

As much as I like the idea of Jesus the Magic Jew, I'm having a few
problems with his Father -- Jehovah, Yahweh, Elohim, or whatever he
calls himself. I've read the Bible and I'm shocked by his appetite for
torture and murder. The part where he committed genocide by murdering
nearly every living human being and animal on our planet with a Flood
scared me. He also strikes me as emotionally immature, jealous,
racist, and sexist. His obsession with sodomy also makes me think he
is trying to suppress very strong latent homosexual urges.

So, anyway, what I was wondering is why you feel the need to worship
such a being? Personally his deeds make my skin crawl, to the extent
that I think the real hero of the Bible is a character named Satan who
makes a martyr of himself to prove how evil Yahweh is.

Please help.

xxxianxx

--
"We demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty!"

-- Vroomfondel

[Mind's Eye] Re: The Great Global Warming Swindle

2007-03-14T14:56:00.000-07:00

It might not be an either/or situation.... Could the "solar flare" theory be
right for that period and the "C02" theory be right for this period?

-----Original Message-----
From: Minds-Eye@googlegroups.com [mailto:Minds-Eye@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Lee
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 7:13 AM
To: Minds Eye
Subject: [Mind's Eye] Re: The Great Global Warming Swindle

Heheh soooo are you saying that the experts have it wrong, CO2 does
not cuase global warming?

It causes global freezing instead?

On 14 Mar, 14:07, "Ian Pollard" <ian.poll...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 13/03/07, Chris Crosdale <chriscrosd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > It's not about the fluctuation in the percentage (the whole point of
> > the show), but merely quoting the size of the percentage, which is
> > small, that is their purpose in that clip. It is a loose bit of
> > information that is not connected with anything and appears like it
> > was meant to provide an emotional image that C02 is
> > "insignificant"....
>
> Hi ChrisC,
>
> What was shown in full in the programme, however, was that the % of
> C02 in our atmosphere has no increasing affect on temperature. Indeed,
> they showed, from deep ice readings, that the middle-ages experienced
> significantly higher temperatures in a period when mankind was
> producing bugger all C02. When the C02 then began to rise with the
> industrialisation of Britain, we saw some of the coldest winters on
> record.
>
> xxxianxx
>
> --
> "We demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty!"
>
> -- Vroomfondel

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2007-03-14T14:51:00.000-07:00

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>
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>
>
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>
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[Mind's Eye] Re: The Great Global Warming Swindle

2007-03-14T13:48:00.000-07:00

On 14/03/07, Lee <lee@rdfmedia.com> wrote:
>
> Heheh soooo are you saying that the experts have it wrong, CO2 does
> not cuase global warming?

I'm not saying anything, Lee. I'm relaying what quite eminent
scientists and, of particular note, climatologists, are saying.
Honestly, for as long as I can remember I have been very aware of the
scientific arguments suggesting that global warming is exacerbated by
human activities. How can you avoid it? It's everywhere. However, the
science we've been fed is bunk; it's really in the realm of
non-science.

> It causes global freezing instead?

The most compelling science we have right now tells that it's quite
likely irrelevant; that was the point I was trying to make.

xxxianxx

--
"We demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty!"

-- Vroomfondel

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2007-03-14T13:44:00.000-07:00

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[TuBsS] AW: [TuBsS] M-Shares

2007-03-14T13:02:00.000-07:00

Hallo Ela, natürlich meine ich diese Mail. Sorry.

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Von: tubenundbildersammelsucht@googlegroups.com [mailto:tubenundbildersammelsucht@googlegroups.com] Im Auftrag von Jess & Ela
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 14. März 2007 09:13
An: incredigoodies@googlegroups.com; tubenundbildersammelsucht@googlegroups.com
Betreff: [TuBsS] M-Shares

Hallo!

Hier sind nun 100 Songs welche ich eigendlich sehr gerne höre, Jess weniger :-) , er steht da schon auf härteres.

Es sind über 450MB und hier kommt mal die Liste.

A.K. - S.W.I.F.T. - Light In Me
Acts United - We Are The Cham
Adiemus - Adiemus
Aerosmith - Hole In My Soul
Aerosmith - I Don't Want To Miss A Thing
Alexander - Free Like The Wind.mp3
Andru Donalds - All Out Of Love.mp3
Banaroo - Space Cowboy
Barclay James Harvest - Hymn
Bee Gees - How Deep Is Your Love.mp3
Bell Book & Candle - Rescue Me.mp3
Berlin - Take My Breath Away
Blue - Breathe Easy
Bonnie Tyler - Total Eclipse Of The Heart
Boyzone - Words.mp3
Britney Spears - Everytime
Bruce Springsteen - I`m On Fire
Caught in the Act - Babe
Caught In The Act - Love Is Everywhere
Celine Dion - My Heart Will Go On
Chicago - If You Leave Me Now
Crowded House - Don't Dream It's Over
Cutting Crew - (I Just) Died in Your Arm
Dario G - Dream To Me
DJ Bobo - Everybody
Dune - Who Wants To Live Forever
Elton John - Your Song
Enya - Amarantine
Enya - Anywhere Is
Enya - Isobella
Enya - Less than A Pearl
Enya - May It Be.mp3
Enya - Only Time.ogg
Era - Ameno.mp3
Erasure - Always.mp3
Eric Burdon - House Of The Rising Sun.mp3
Espen Lind - When Susanna Cries.mp3
Europe - Carrie.mp3
Europe - The Final Countdown.mp3
Everlast - Ends.mp3
Fool's Garden - Lemon Tree.mp3
Gareth Gates - Anyone of us ministry.mp3
Gnarls Barkley - Crazy.mp3
Hoobastank - The Reason.mp3
John Miles - Music.mp3
Joshua Kadison - Picture Postcards From L.A..mp3
Keith Urban - Shine.mp3
Kelly Family - I Can't Help Myself.mp3
Kelly Family - Nanana.mp3
Kylie Minogue & Jason Donovan - Especially For You.mp3
Lighthouse Family - High.mp3
Lionel Richie & Diana Ross - Endless Love.mp3
Liquido - Narcotic.mp3
Marc Terenzi - Love To Be Loved By You.mp3
Martin Kesici - Angel of Berlin-ministry.mp3
Meat Loaf - Objects In The Rear View Mirror May Appear Closer Than They Are.mp3

Melanie Thornton - Wonderful Dream.mp3
Michael Andrews - Mad World.mp3
Mike + the Mechanics - Taken In.mp3
Mike + the Mechanics - The Living Years.mp3
Mike + the Mechanics - Word of Mouth.mp3
Natalie Imbruglia - Torn.mp3
Nazareth - Dream On.mp3
Nelly Furtado - Forca.mp3
Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds and Kylie Minogue Where The Wil.mp3
Nickelback - How You Remind Me.mp3
Nilsson - Without You.mp3
No Doubt - Don't Speak.mp3
No Mercy - Where Do You Go.mp3
Once - In A Lifetime.mp3
Paul Van Dyk And Peter Heppner - Wir Sind Wir.mp3
R. Kelly - I Belive I Can Fly.mp3
R. Kelly - The Storm Is Over Now.mp3
Reamon - All right Ministry.mp3
Reamonn - Tonight.mp3
Robbie Williams - Angels.mp3
Robbie Williams - Eternity.mp3
Rod Stewart - Sailing.mp3
Sarah Brightman - Time To Say Goodbye.mp3
Sasha - If You Believe.mp3
Seal - Kiss From A Rose.mp3
Seal - Loves Divine.mp3
Shaggy feat. Rih Roh - It Wasn't Me.mp3
Sheena Easton - For You Eyes Only.mp3
Sinead O'connor - Nothing Compares 2 U.mp3
Snap - The First The Last Eternity.mp3
Spice Girls - 2 Become 1.mp3
Spice Girls - Viva Forever.mp3
Status Quo - In The Army Now.mp3
Sunset Strippers - Falling Stars.mp3
Tanita Tikaram - Cathedral Song.mp3
Terry Jacks - Season In the sun.mp3
The Cars - Drive.mp3
The Connells - ´74 -´75.mp3
Tobias Regner - I Still Burn.mp3
Vanilla Ninja - When The Indians Cry.mp3
Westlife - Mandy.mp3
Wham! feat. George Michael - Careless Whisper.mp3
Whitney Houston - I Will Always Love You.mp3

Wolfsheim - Kein Zurück

Wir ihr seht ist fast alles ruhig und fast nichts Deutsches dabei, den mit sowas wie Silbermond, Stürmer und Co. kann man uns jagen, hoffe Euch stört das nicht so unbedingt und es ist dennoch genügend für Euch dabei.

Wenn Ihr nur ein paar Songs haben wollt, gebt Bescheid, man kann sie ja dann so verschicken.

Die komplette .rar Datei findet ihr wie immer im Anhang, Pando läßt mal wieder grüßen.

Wir habe die Songs mit Winamp bearbeitet (Titel, Interpret) ob das nun auch so bei dem Media Player angezeigt wird können wir Euch nicht sagen, haben den schon lange runtergeworfen.

Ach und ein PW gibt es 100% nicht. :-)

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2007-03-14T12:32:00.000-07:00

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This is an A-Bomb or Atomic Bomb test detonated in 1953 from the atomic cannon. The yield was approximately the same as the bomb detonated over Hiroshima Japan.

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2007-03-14T12:29:00.000-07:00

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But the ache persisted with great vigour than before. At last a monk who has supposed to be an expert in treating such patients was called for by the millionaire.

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The millionaire got together a group of painters and purchased barrels of green color and directed that every object his eye was likely   to   fall   to   be   painted   in   green   colour   just   as the monk had directed.


When   the   monk came to visit him after few days, the millionaire's servants ran with buckets of green paints and poured on him since he was in red dress, lest their master not see any other colour and his eye ache would come back.


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Beautiful - Snapshots

2007-03-14T12:28:00.000-07:00

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2007-03-14T12:27:00.000-07:00

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[Mind's Eye] Re: Gender Equality

2007-03-14T12:25:00.000-07:00

DCJ:

Lest I be guilty of hi-jacking the thread (although I believe
interest has waned in the original subject), I will make only this
final post in **this** thread on social responsibility.

Your well-written paragraph on what you perceive to be your
responsibility is completely commendable by almost any standard {What
does that Kev mean by **almost**???}. I ask only this one question
(consider it rhetorical, if you like).

Does your sense of social responsibility emanate from some
obligation you feel is imposed by the presence of others in your world
{i.e. you owe them} OR by a conscious decision on your part, made of
your own volition, to actively engage in what you believe is the
betterment of society at large {i.e. you want to}??

Still learning from others,
K e v

[TuBsS] Puppet

2007-03-14T12:23:00.000-07:00

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<> ITC anybody

2007-03-14T11:32:00.001-07:00

Dear all,

We are now witnessing a regular daily hammering on the ITC counter, due to fear of ensuing scheme to bring tobacco under VAT regime. Now, can anyone thro' some light on when this bill will be introduced or notified . So that we can watch how much more it will take, it is already close to its 52wkL.

Seniors and Market Wizards, please post comment.

With regards

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[Softwares-Downloads] Re: needing " Sams Teach yourself c++ in 21 days

2007-03-14T11:32:00.000-07:00

Hello Sparky
Is this what you were looking for?

Hope that this will be of help to you.

Many thanks

regards

computer faculty

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<> M&M -- Edelweiss

2007-03-14T11:20:00.000-07:00

Hi,

Kindly find the attached file.

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<> LIC Housing Finance -- ENAM

2007-03-14T11:12:00.000-07:00

Hi,

Kindly find the attached file.

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[Softwares-Downloads] Re: request

2007-03-14T11:00:00.000-07:00

i just downloaded it and yes it does work.

>From: "Sleepy Gal" <sleepygal.denise@gmail.com>
>Reply-To: Softwares-Downloads@googlegroups.com
>To: <Softwares-Downloads@googlegroups.com>
>Subject: [Softwares-Downloads] Re: request
>Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 13:13:03 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time)
>
>I have not tested this. Hope it works for you.
>
>A group of suburban biker wannabes look for adventure hit the open road in
>search of adventure, but get more than they bargained for when they
>encounter a New Mexico gang called the Del Fuegos.
>
>http://rapidshare.com/files/19527936/wildhogsHQ.part1.rar
>http://rapidshare.com/files/19527957/wildhogsHQ.part2.rar
>http://rapidshare.com/files/19527941/wildhogsHQ.part3.rar
>http://rapidshare.com/files/19527947/wildhogsHQ.part4.rar
>http://rapidshare.com/files/19527960/wildhogsHQ.part5.rar
>http://rapidshare.com/files/19527948/wildhogsHQ.part6.rar
>http://rapidshare.com/files/19527967/wildhogsHQ.part7.rar
>http://rapidshare.com/files/19527775/wildhogsHQ.part8.rar
>
>Addon/Info:
>Rar Pass: www.cmszone.org
>
>
>-------Original Message-------
>
>From: JODY BURGE
>Date: 3/9/2007 11:54:50 AM
>To: SHAREWARE
>Subject: [Softwares-Downloads] request
>
>would anyone have the movie "wild hogs" and would share,
>thanks bunches.
>hugs jody
>
>
>
>
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2007-03-14T10:56:00.000-07:00

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[తెలుగుబ్లాగు] doubt abt stat counter

2007-03-14T10:49:00.000-07:00

నాకెవరైనా statcounter గురించి చెప్తారా??? అందులో నేను రెజిస్టర్
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<> Re: BIRLA TAX saver

2007-03-14T10:45:00.000-07:00

Note that after this dividend NAV will come back down to Rs. 90
(reduced by Rs. 50). Net net you don't make anything more - just save
tax on more money than you invest.

Meaning if you put in one lakh and you are in the 30% bracket, but you
will get about Rs. 35K back as dividend, so you have invested Rs. 65K
only; and with the NAV reduction your fund value is also down to Rs.
65K. usually you save 30% on investing in ELSS this time you save 50%
in tax (saving 30K on investment of 65K). But one major pain is that
dividends can take upto one month to come and two that this fund has
not performed well over the last four months (when this "scheme" was
declared) and remember your money (65K) is locked in for three years.

I personally don't recommend it because I don't like their unethical
practices - they told distributors to spread word about this dividend
from Dec 2006, even though SEBI says its illegal to pre-announce
dividend more than five days in advance. Their assets increased from
60cr in December to more than 350 cr. today - and they get management
fees of approx 1% of that.

Your call though, but I just wanted to tell you another part of the
story.

Thanks
Deepak

On Mar 13, 1:39 am, "maddy bloody" <maddy.blo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> LAST chance to save ur taxes.Well u have money and want to save taxes.But u
> are not in a position to lock for three years.Let me tell u the easy way out
> to get some part relief and the market is just conducive to put ur money for
> three year horizon.
> BIRLA TAX SAVER FUND 1996 has come out with 500% dividend the last of this
> year with record date 16th march 2007.What it means is its current NAV is
> something around Rs.136-140.If u buy on or before 16th march 2007 u will get
> back Rs.50/unit as dividend.U may ask whats there in getting my money back
> as dividend.
> ILLUSTRATION>>>
> You have to save 60,000 as per sec 80(C) (assuming u have already saved
> Rs.40000 through PF,insurance and other tax saving instruments).Your
> employer has already cut ur feburvary salary as taxes and what u have to do
> is just buy this Birla Tax saver fund and u put Rs.60000 in this fund u get
> approximately 418.92 units with 140 as NAV and 2.25% entry load and on 16th
> of march what u will get is Rs.20946 into ur bank account.
> What does this mean?Now u have saved as per section 80(c)
> Rs.60000(u can put all the 1 lk also if u need but remember sec 80(c) has a
> cap of 1 lk and beyond that no tax benift but returns are tax free though)
> If u come under the 30% income slab which is above 2 lakh 50000 u save
> something like Rs.18360 as direct taxes and u invest 39,054 in a performing
> ELSS which has reasonable track record over a three year horizon and u get
> back Rs.20946 in total u save Rs.39306 out of the Rs,60000.
> If u come under the 20% income tax slab that is 1.5lk to 2.5lk if u save say
> Rs.1lk(just for illustration no logic) u get nearly 700 units with NAV
> considred at Rs.140/unit u will get a tax rebate of Rs.20000+the dividend
> amount Rs35000(Rs50*700 units).
> I will clarify if u have further doubts.
> Remember the record date is march 16th people who have not saved taxes don't
> trust NSC,PPF or KVP as they are worthless and INDIA is a great long term
> story and the lockin period is just 3 years compared to 6 years in other
> schemes.The best way to save taxes is to use ELSS funds and some have given
> 500% returns in the past 5 years time and consistent 20% returns on a yearly
> basis.
> CHEERS,
> maddy
>
> DISCLOSURE&DISCLAIMER:
> I am no way related to BIRLA TAX SAVER FUND and i am not holding this fund
> either and i don't have any vested intrest in this whatsoever.This mail is
> for the people who don't understand the importance of section 80(c) and
> indiduals have to take their decisions and its their hard earned money and
> one has to take their personal decision and i am not forcing anyone.

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[Softwares-Downloads] Re: Software: Microsoft Office 2007 Enterprise Keygen

2007-03-14T10:15:00.000-07:00

I don't know how this one got through but this is spam. You are not likely to receive any response.

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To: softwares-downloads@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Softwares-Downloads] Re: Software: Microsoft Office 2007 Enterprise Keygen

waht is the password for rar file.

Sharad

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Hi Pooja ,

Is this the complete link , and if yes where is the key

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Microsoft Office 2007 Enterprise Keygen

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2007-03-14T09:50:00.000-07:00

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2007-03-14T09:48:00.000-07:00

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24 new messages in 13 topics - digest

2007-03-14T08:55:00.000-07:00

sci.electronics.repair
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair?hl=en

sci.electronics.repair@googlegroups.com

Today's topics:

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TOPIC: Yamaha cd player spindle problem??
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/browse_thread/thread/de36db40954d0e1a?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 13 2007 11:40 am
From: "Mark D. Zacharias"

TJB wrote:
> "Mark D. Zacharias" <spammenot@nonsense.net> wrote in
> news:%cbJh.2776$Qw.2073@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net:
>
>
>>
>> Try to get the exact same motor number. The different model suffixes
>> often relate to the length of the motor spindle (shaft).
>>
>> Carefully measure the spindle platter height before you remove it.
>> Also, be aware that you won't likely be able to get it installed on
>> the new motor "quite" true, meaning that you will probably have some
>> spindle motor wobble after the new motor is installed. Shouldn't
>> really be a problem, but I thought it should be mentioned...
>>
>>
>> Mark Z.
>>
>>
>>
>
> Mark, this may be a dumb question but I am going to ask anyway. Why
> would putting the platter onto a new motor cause any more wobble than
> with the current motor??? It has one of those pressed on plastic
> platters and assuming I don't bend the spindle.
>
>
> TJB

It's just been my experience. The original was pressed on with a machine.
You and I press it on by hand and it doesn't wind up that the disc will
rotate quite as flat as the original once the job is done. Like I said, it;s
not really a big deal. The focus servo will just have to work a little
harder.

Mark Z.

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TOPIC: JVC VCR HR-S6965 Repair Assistance
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/browse_thread/thread/9c5e593172046bd8?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 13 2007 11:42 am
From: "Mark D. Zacharias"

ellis.rich@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi,
>
> My colleague and I are trying to repair his JVC VCR HR-S6965 which was
> recently subject to a power surge. It appears that some components in
> the PSU have blown and we are trying to locate a schematic for this
> circuit so we can debug it and repair.
>
> Also, one of the transistors in this area of the circuit (Q5102) which
> appears to have the part number 2SD1450 appears to have become
> obsolete since manufacture and we were wondering if anyone knew of a
> 'drop-in' replacement part?
>
> Many thanks for any help!!

Could that have been a 2SD1458 ? I've seen a number of those used in vcr
switchers... and they are available.

Mark Z.

==============================================================================
TOPIC: OT? - Broken Fridge
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/browse_thread/thread/268ff360702810fe?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 13 2007 8:26 am
From: Sam Goldwasser

James Sweet <jamessweet@hotmail.com> writes:

> >
> > There is NO guaranty on defrosting using a Knife or Icepick !!
> >
> > I regularly used to tell my junior Technicians, "Don't bother trying to
> > speed up defrosting the Lab Freezers with a knife or icepick". Just put
> > it on a dolly and put it out on the loading dock for the dump , and save
> > everybody a lot of time and trouble.
> > The proper way to Defrost a freezer is Just unplug the freezer and place
> > a large pan of hot water in the freezer and close the door, replace the
> > pan with more hot water until all the ice melts. All you need to do is
> > scratch the Evaporator to destroy it !! This is NOT covered under warranty.
>
> What would be nice is a valve to short circuit the metering device and
> let the hot vapor from the compressor flow straight into the evaporator
> coils. That would defrost it in a matter of minutes. I've heard of a few
> very old refrigerators that worked this way but nothing modern does it.

Cost, cost, cost, cost. :)

What's wrong with a couple pans of hot water, rags at bottom, close the door,
wait an hour while you do something else! People who have to have instant
gratification for a task that's performed once a year if that! :)

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== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 13 2007 5:49 pm
From: "DaveM"

"James Sweet" <jamessweet@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:rPoJh.11757$mh7.4952@trnddc04...
>
>>>
>>>
>>>What would be nice is a valve to short circuit the metering device and let
>>>the hot vapor from the compressor flow straight into the evaporator coils.
>>>That would defrost it in a matter of minutes. I've heard of a few very old
>>>refrigerators that worked this way but nothing modern does it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Admittedly not a refrigerator, but still a refrigeration system, heat pump
>> HVAC systems do exactly that... the valves in the system are arranged and
>> switched so that as the condenser on the outside unit collects frost and
>> eventually ices up (heat pump mode), the system reverses the valves and the
>> condenser is heated and the ice melts (defrost mode). When the system
>> determines that the ice has melted, it switches the valves back to heat mode.
>> In defrost mode, the system is essentially an air conditioner.
>>
>
>
> Yes I'm quite familiar with those having installed several of them. Most heat
> pumps you'll find out there don't actually sense frost buildup but rather have
> a simple interval timer which triggers a defrost cycle every 30, 60, or 90
> minutes. A defrost termination thermostat senses the temperature of the line
> out of the outdoor coil (which is the evaporator in heating mode) and returns
> the the unit to heating mode when this trips. I modified my own unit with a
> surplus vacuum operated sensor I found, it has a diaphragm which uses the
> pressure drop from the fan across the coil when it ices up to trip a switch
> which is then reset by a capillary tube and bulb in the location where the
> original DT thermostat was located. In my climate this dramatically reduced
> the number of energy wasting unnecessary defrost cycles, not sure how well it
> would work elsewhere. It's a big boost to comfort as well, my backup heat is a
> gas furnace so I can only run one or the other, a defrost cycle means an icy
> blast of cold air which can drop the room temperature by several degrees. A/C
> is very efficient when the condenser is down near freezing. Other methods have
> been tried in the past but all I've seen until very recently are the timers.
> Some very high end units today use a demand defrost system which monitors
> trends in the evaporator temperature to determine when a defrost is necessary,
> I have no experience with these so I can't say whether they work well or not.

Yeppers... Until a few years ago, I had an old GE Weathertron heat pump system.
Terribly inefficient by today's standards, but it got the job done. It had a
vacuum sensor in the outside unit that sensed a drop in air pressure inside the
coils, whereupon it switched into defrost mode. It ran the auxillary heat
strips while in defrost mode to keep from cooling the house while in defrost. A
capillary sensed the coil temperature and switched back into heat pump mode when
the coil temp got high enough. It worked quite well; only went into defrost
when necessary.

Scared me the first time I saw it defrosting... the big column of vapor steaming
up from the unit was awesome. I thought the thing was on fire!!

I had to replace the entire system when the compressor locked up after 25 or so
years of operation. Don't know how the Lennox system I bought as the
replacement determines that it needs to defrost... could be a timer. But it
seems to work well, even in sub-freezing temps and high Florida humidity.

Cheers!!!
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address)

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== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 13 2007 10:36 pm
From: "Homer J Simpson"

"DaveM" <masondg4499@comcast99.net> wrote in message
news:sPadnaR7F9HBgWrYnZ2dnUVZ_hmtnZ2d@comcast.com...

> I had to replace the entire system when the compressor locked up after 25
> or so years of operation. Don't know how the Lennox system I bought as
> the replacement determines that it needs to defrost... could be a timer.
> But it seems to work well, even in sub-freezing temps and high Florida
> humidity.

These days you are better off to look at one of the Japanese split system
heat pumps.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 13 2007 6:55 pm
From: "Captain Midnight"

"Sam Goldwasser" <sam@blue.seas.upenn.edu> wrote in message
news:6wlki15nyg.fsf@blue.seas.upenn.edu...
>
> What's wrong with a couple pans of hot water, rags at bottom, close the
door,
> wait an hour while you do something else! People who have to have instant
> gratification for a task that's performed once a year if that! :)
>

I love the gratification of my food not spoiling. What are you doing for
gratification while the pan is in the fridge? ;^)

I'm guessing it'd take at least 12 hours of hot water to completely defrost
my old fridge. I take out the panels and keep at it to get it all not just
enough to get some air flow. First time was when the defrost timer was only
working on every other cycle and ~ten years later to try and save it. Didn't
want to put any money into a 25 year old so didn't bother doing any
troubleshooting. Do they still sell fridges that aren't "frost free"?.

Actually it was 3 times. Didn't realize the timer had 2 cycles the first
time. IIRC the second cleaning was less than a year later. Soon enough I
knew it had a problem at any rate.

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 13 2007 3:44 pm
From: "Matti"

Check smd-fuses on the inverter-board!

Matti

"Dick" <richard@phazer.com> wrote in message
news:hv1Jh.1031$2%3.969@trndny06...
> Got a NEC 17inch monitor when powered up,stays on for about a second
> and quits. The screen looks normal for that second.
> I suppose it could be the inverter board,but I don't want to spend the
> $75. if
> it is something else. Anybody had this problem with this model ?
> NEC 1700V LCD.
> Thanks,
> Dick
>

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 13 2007 11:12 pm
From: "Dick"

I checked those two fuses on the inverter board, AOK. I don't think the
screen would even light at all if those fuses were bad. I guess I will throw
it to the recycle center.
Thanks,
Dick
"Dick" <richard@phazer.com> wrote in message
news:hv1Jh.1031$2%3.969@trndny06...
> Got a NEC 17inch monitor when powered up,stays on for about a second
> and quits. The screen looks normal for that second.
> I suppose it could be the inverter board,but I don't want to spend the
> $75. if
> it is something else. Anybody had this problem with this model ?
> NEC 1700V LCD.
> Thanks,
> Dick
>

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TOPIC: HP Printer
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/browse_thread/thread/6d57eab25570eb9?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 13 2007 3:33 pm
From: "Ron(UK)"

Homer J Simpson wrote:

>
> There is a rubber tire reconditioner used for record players (the cheap kind
> with a rubber tire). Don't know what's in it though.
>
The stuff I`ve had for donkey's years contains xylene - very nasty
stuff - works a treat tho.

Ron(UK)

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TOPIC: Consumers choice in Electronic products
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 13 2007 11:33 am
From: tpraja@gmail.com

Description

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bengal,india.
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General details
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Email Contact seller
Phone 32657878

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 13 2007 11:50 am
From: tpraja@gmail.com

Description

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Email Contact seller
Phone 32657878

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 13 2007 12:09 pm
From: palanivelraaja@gmail.com

General details
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TOPIC: Verify a(maybe) dying diode caused by a bad capacitor???
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 13 2007 12:18 pm
From: "Jeroni Paul"

Eeyore wrote:
> Bad advice.
>
> Some components may have been stressed by the fault The charring near the diode
> indicates this.
>
> There's NO WAY to prove the diode hasn't had its reliability compromised through
> overheating so it should be replaced as a precaution.

The charring proves that the diode has always run hot and it is likely
the way it is meant to be. A board is not charred in just a few hours
of operation.

Messing and replacing these diodes is a good way to risk the power
supply, and given that it runs hot I would be very careful with the
type I replace it with, get it wrong and you may blow the supply again.

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TOPIC: help, voltage problms abroad
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 13 2007 7:33 pm
From: "Neil J. Harris"

In message <1173365184.524897.266460@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com>,
alexeiofnewark@gmail.com writes
>i forgot to switch to 230v when plugging in my american desktop in
>france, there was a pop, and now it wont start. did i completely break
>it or is there a circuit breaker or something i can fix
>
All the desktop PSUs I've seen have an internal fuse inside. I think it
would be necessary for UL listing. Sometimes though it's a "wire-ended"
type and can only be replaced with the use of a soldering iron.
I do remember once replacing a "wire-ended" one with a standard plug-in
one by fitting a fuse-holder, the PCB was layed out for both. You could
well find wording like "for continued protection against fire replace
only with the specified fuse" and also the fuse rating silk screened
onto the PCB.
Standard ATX PSU's are cheap and readily available and there must be
millions of serviceable ones thrown away in PCs deemed "out of date"
because their beige colour didn't match the décor.
An empty case with a PSU in it costs little more than a PSU alone, and
you could have one in a pretty colour too.
You could probably get a PSU with a universal input voltage range
(100Vac to 240Vac) (or even AC/DC) these days and not have to worry
about making the same mistake again!
--
Neil J. Harris

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 13 2007 8:35 pm
From: Esther & Fester Bestertester

> its in the desktop, do i need a new one or can they be fixed?

Go to a few computer stores and ask if they carry your brand of computer.
Tell them you need a new power supply (with France's input voltage
settings!). If it is for the same make/model, it should have all the same
connectors and be a fairly straightforward install. If all you can find is a
"generic" power supply (you must match the watts rating on your old power
supply to the new one -- sometimes it is stated like "200W"), it should be a
no more than a bit of a small puzzle to make it work for someone with basic
computer/electronic skills (I'm sure you know *someone*).

Good luck,
FBt

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TOPIC: audio amplifier- recommedations
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/browse_thread/thread/f6298e051d9e478f?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 13 2007 8:05 pm
From: Leo Tick

This is a sort of repair question. On a site I wish to use the volume is
too low even when all available controls are set to max. Earphones are
marginal speakers would need a hearing aid. I realize this a a software
problem (widows and all browsers likely the site) I believe that
solution path is not available . It's not the sound hardware since other
sources are quite loud. ISTM that an audio amplifier is a good solution.
I only need about a doubling of the current volume and since this is
only speech, wide band is not needed. Can someone suggest a simple that
means -cheap device. A kit would be fine. What specs do I need after all
the input level is not low and in truth I dont need a power supply as I
have the computer power or a box full of cubes.
All suggestion are appreciated.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 13 2007 8:59 pm
From: et472@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Michael Black)

Leo Tick (tick@cs.nyu.edu) writes:
> This is a sort of repair question.

It's not a repair issue.

It's a basic question. So if you are asking about building an amplifier,
or the concept, you ask in sci.electronics.basics If you are asking about a
commercially made amplifier, then you ask in one of the newsgroups in the
rec.audio.* Likely there are even other places to ask, but laziness
has made you ask in a newsgroup that is about the repair of electronic
devices.

Michael

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TOPIC: Strange LCD monitor symptom. MASCOT V chip?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/browse_thread/thread/dd34eed81941376e?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 13 2007 8:09 pm
From: mike

I have a Sharp LL-T15A4-S LCD monitor.
Here's the symptom:
The screen is 12" wide.
Draw a vertical line 2" from the left side.
To the left of the line, the picture is perfect.
To the right of the line, every other horizontal
line is missing. Alternate horizontal lines
are perfect on the right of the line.

I can't think of a panel defect that could cause this.
Gotta be some addressing problem in the control chip.

I've been looking for information on the
CK1659 MASCOT V chip and the CS8528N chip in between
the MASCOT V and the panel.

I tried setting up a white screen, triggering on the
vertical sync and recording a few horizontal lines.
Instead of a clean signal, I see a LOT of noise and
maybe some places there's no signal, but it doesn't
correlate to the missing lines on the screen.
Shouldn't I expect clean digital signals to the panel?

Any info on how the MASCOT V works or FREE schematics of
this particular monitor? I did find a schematic of another
monitor with the MASCOT V chip and the signal names
suggest something about even and odd. But only part
of the odd horizontal lines have a problem.

I have lots of time and a desire to learn about this,
but I'm not willing to spend money on it.

Ideas?
Thanks, mike

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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 13 2007 3:06 pm
From: "Dumb_Blonde"

Thank you in advance for your time. I found a neat project to do with
my 14 year old son, but would like to know the science behind it so it
will be educational.

Here is the video link.

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/470767/firecracker_rocket_project_experiment/

It is a fire cracker experiment, and I know he will love it, but I am
clueless as to how this makes my car run.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 13 2007 6:39 pm
From: **THE-RFI-EMI-GUY**

I assume the can is open on one end like a soup can, not a coke can. I
think the water is there to provide an airtight, frictionless seal for
more effect. Keeping the firercracker dry is tricky. This looks like a
good use for the hundreds of firecrackers I have left over!

What he is simulating is the explosion that happens in one of your cars
engine cylinders. A car engine operates on a series of small controlled
explosions. In your car, the explosive force drives a piston down,
pushing a connecting rod which in turn rotates a crankshaft. A car
engine has 4 to 8 cylinders which fire sequentially and smoothly. The
links below illustrate this with a single cylinder like a lawnmower
engine. These are "internal combustion engines".

My sister did a similar science project years ago with a coffee can
fitted with a spark plug and filled with a very small amount of gasoline
or ether. A plastic lid was placed on top and an ignition coil made a
spark which blew the plastic lid off. Not as dramatic as a fire cracker.

http://www.keveney.com/otto.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four-stroke_cycle

Dumb_Blonde wrote:

>Thank you in advance for your time. I found a neat project to do with
>my 14 year old son, but would like to know the science behind it so it
>will be educational.
>
>Here is the video link.
>
>http://www.metacafe.com/watch/470767/firecracker_rocket_project_experiment/
>
>It is a fire cracker experiment, and I know he will love it, but I am
>clueless as to how this makes my car run.
>
>
>

"Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason?
For if it prosper, none dare call it treason."

"Follow The Money" ;-P

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 13 2007 7:25 pm
From: "Captain Midnight"

"**THE-RFI-EMI-GUY**" <rhyolite@nettally.com> wrote in message
news:45f72822$0$4929$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> I assume the can is open on one end like a soup can, not a coke can. I
> think the water is there to provide an airtight, frictionless seal for
> more effect. Keeping the firercracker dry is tricky. This looks like a
> good use for the hundreds of firecrackers I have left over!
>
> What he is simulating is the explosion that happens in one of your cars
> engine cylinders. A car engine operates on a series of small controlled
> explosions. In your car, the explosive force drives a piston down,
> pushing a connecting rod which in turn rotates a crankshaft. A car
> engine has 4 to 8 cylinders which fire sequentially and smoothly. The
> links below illustrate this with a single cylinder like a lawnmower
> engine. These are "internal combustion engines".
>
> My sister did a similar science project years ago with a coffee can
> fitted with a spark plug and filled with a very small amount of gasoline
> or ether. A plastic lid was placed on top and an ignition coil made a
> spark which blew the plastic lid off. Not as dramatic as a fire cracker.
>
> http://www.keveney.com/otto.html
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four-stroke_cycle
>
> Dumb_Blonde wrote:
>
> >Thank you in advance for your time. I found a neat project to do with
> >my 14 year old son, but would like to know the science behind it so it
> >will be educational.
> >
> >Here is the video link.
> >
>
>http://www.metacafe.com/watch/470767/firecracker_rocket_project_experiment/
> >
> >It is a fire cracker experiment, and I know he will love it, but I am
> >clueless as to how this makes my car run.
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Joe Leikhim K4SAT
> "The RFI-EMI-GUY"©
>

Their is no explosion in a properly operating internal combustion engine.
The fuel merely heats the air. The expansion of the air pushes the piston.
An explosion called detonation or knock can put a hole in the piston. Some
engines require higher octane fuel to keep knock from occurring.

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TOPIC: controls for electric cooktop
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 13 2007 4:22 pm
From: "moley"

Hi,

I have an older (10Y) Amanc cooktop, Model AKE 35. After about 9
Years, the temperature controls started to get flakey. One would have
to jiggle to keep the burner hot and rotate the control carefully to
keep the connection made. First one, then another. I bought 4 new
control switches and installed them. They lasted about six monthe
before they became flaky too. I bought 4 more from another parts
vendor and they lasted six months. I bought 4 more from Amana (pricy)
and they looked and were marked exactly the same as all the others I
had bought. They too became intermittant after about six months.

All these controls only have a 90 day warranty but still, one should
be able to expect years of service from such controls. Maytag tells me
to go scratch and just buy four more. I think I will not just send off
another $90 without trying to find out what the problem might be.
After each replacement the cook top works perfectly so I am sure there
is no problem with the installation. I suspect a new supplier has been
making these controls for a coule of years and hasen't got it right
yet. Can everyone who replaces these controls be having such short
life? We are a two person family and are not heavy users of this
cooktop.

I hate to throw away a fine cookstove because I cant find a reliable
switch. Thanks for any advice suggestions etc.

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TOPIC: Estimating transformer voltage for B&K CS117 preamp
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 13 2007 4:37 pm
From: "powerdoc"

I have a CS-117 with a defunct transformer. The factory won't sell me
parts and the value of the unit will be exceeded by the repair costs.
Is there a way to estimate the value of the ac output (it looks like a
center - tapped output with 3 wires) so I can get this back on the
road?

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 13 2007 4:56 pm
From: meow2222@care2.com

On 13 Mar, 23:37, "powerdoc" <dkingl...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> I have a CS-117 with a defunct transformer. The factory won't sell me
> parts and the value of the unit will be exceeded by the repair costs.
> Is there a way to estimate the value of the ac output (it looks like a
> center - tapped output with 3 wires) so I can get this back on the
> road?

For a preamp, look at hte electrolytics. Also look at the volt reg,
both voltage and type, if it uses one.

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<> Re: Fwd: CNBC ...is the Next Anirudh Sethi in Making ?

2007-03-14T08:44:00.000-07:00

I totally agree. Thank you for being so blunt, but so right and truthful about it.

It is all about fast fingers, and getting things accomplished. I am flawed at it also which is why I am able to write this. And, besides, I am doing something about it.

The golden days were when we all used to think things through before making decisions on Rs10K or Rs 1L......But today, a lot of us are making quick decisions to get in AND out without much reasoning other than 'he said it' or 'I heard it'.

In the European movement to 'Slow things down' and no do 19 things each day, we have to learn quickly when it comes to stock market since it can wipe out 'many many hours of hard work that each one of us did to collect the money'. I am putting spreadsheets together that pull quarterly and annual numbers with % gains that will open our eyes to what kind of stocks we should buy and why. More importantly, it is good to know when to sell, and for that I am putting targets in it.

I will share it when I am a bit more ready, and continue to post it on an on-going basis. It is looking good so far and already at V3!

KKP

Devil wrote:

Why blame CNBC alone? Are we also not at fault? See the messages here. Give me short term tips for making profit and similar.........  Is this somebody's grandfather's place to give tips. What is the motivation? yes, people like Pradip, Abe, etc., give a lot of insight, but they do not blindly ask you to follow. We rarely do our homework, study the market, and blindly buy and sell. Then if we are at a loss, we start blaming others for our mistakes, not realising that it was our stupidity which caused the losses in the first place.  Let us do our homework, study the markets, and buy and sell carefully after evaluating all options. Then if we still go wrong, then let us look at the reasons for that.  Just my opinion....  Ramji   On Mar 13, 4:33 pm, "ashok mahajan" <goodspor...@gmail.com> wrote:

u r right.i fully agree with u.all analysys of cnbc is clone of anirudh setthi.after baroda based anirudh sethi cheatting the investor now all monkey of cnbc misguide the investor. i hope they trapped  in short selling or mohra of bear cartle.so beware of dog.please save ur hard earn money and keep distance with such cats and dog. On 3/13/07, Shailesh <sensexl...@gmail.com> wrote:

Shailesh

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[Mind's Eye] Re: Gender Equality

2007-03-14T08:36:00.000-07:00

On 14/03/07, DubiousChrisJ <digitalprecipice@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I believe it's Brother Dave's little sister... ;)

I vote we bring him back!

His blog:
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<> Re: dabur india announces 75% divisend

2007-03-14T08:35:00.000-07:00

Gone are the days when earnings through dividend were suffice for the investments made.

Today, even an 800% dividend a.l.a HCLTECH appears low (Rs16/- per share when CMP is say 650/-) as the FV of shares are either Re 1/- or 2/- and the prices reside in strato sphere.

Regards

Arul

On 3/14/07, Bob Singh <humblybob1@gmail.com> wrote:

this is 75 paise since Dabur shares have a face value of Rs 1.

CMP of Dabur is 88

Hence you can calculate the ROI.

On 3/13/07, mohit <mohitvyas123@gmail.com > wrote:

hello grup.

dabur india has announced a dividend of 75% to its share holders.

cheers................... ..

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2007-03-14T08:26:00.000-07:00

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Re: gals..

2007-03-14T07:10:00.000-07:00

On 3/14/07, sumanta dutta <sumanta0550@gmail.com> wrote:

I also like to share one with u
send me someone

On 3/13/07, uday.. <udhaykumar.p@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi this is uday..Is there any girl intersted to share some thing with
> me ??
>
>
> >
>

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[Mind's Eye] Re: Shark fact

2007-03-14T07:03:00.000-07:00

On 14/03/07, Erwin Donham <erwin.donham@gmail.com> wrote:
> In my attempts to win the lost to Christ, I sometimes overreact, like so.

Accepting, then, that you are a person prone to overreaction; is
possible that your easily excitable mind overreacted when confronted
with the mimetic plague that is religion? How can you be sure you are
not in throes of a delusional mind virus?

xxxianxx

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[TuBsS] fantasy

2007-03-14T06:26:00.000-07:00

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[Mind's Eye] Re: Gender Equality

2007-03-14T06:22:00.000-07:00

I believe that we as a society have to recognize that as society
evolves, sometimes there are portions of society which do not follow
as quickly, for whatever reason. For example, while I do not believe
in the concept of institutionalized racism, I do recognize that a
system of slavery and law enforced racism in this country has created
a socioeconomic effect of repression in primarily black communities,
and believe that we have a social responsibility to focus education
and opportunity in those areas to bring them up to speed. Nothing
reduces crime like legitimate hope. Inversely, hopeless and desparate
people are far more likely to make poor decisions with both crime and
drug abuse. Many people in that demographic (poor blacks) do not
believe there is any real opportunity, and thus real hope. Community
based programs to encourage education and civic pride, along with job
placement and medical care, would help to change the social outlook of
a sub-section of society. This is the social responsibility of which I
speak.

I'm a special brand of libertarian, like I said. I believe there
should be that balance.

On 3/13/07, kev <kevirwin@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> DCJ:
>
> Well yes, That's all well and good, but enough of this levity!!!
>
> I posted this after one of yours above; I'm curious as to your
> position (maybe you missed it, or maybe you don't care. Who's to
> say??? ....... oh yea, YOU....
>
> somewhere up above, this fragment of the thread exists:
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- - - - - - - -
> On Mar 11, 6:45 pm, DubiousChrisJ <digitalprecip...@gmail.com> wrote:
> {partially}
> <quote>
> I believe there are two realms of responsibility: personal, and
> social.
>
>
> Individually, we are responsible for our own choices, decisions, and
> consequences.
>
>
> Socially, we have a responsibility to try to rectify failures in our
> social system which cause inequities, because those inequities make
> it
> more likely that individuals will make poor choices, which further
> denigrate society.
> <end quote>
>
>
>
> >From what little you know of me, you might already guess I am 100% in
> agreement with sentence number 2. Your final paragraph is similar in
> nature to that Aristotle's ethics book Craig is posting, as it
> addresses social responsibility. Here is where we diverge, ever so
> slightly (practically speaking, that is; philosophically speaking,
> it's a cavernous divergence). I find, so far, no compelling reasons
> to
> be **responsible** to help fix the reprehensible conditions on this
> miserable sphere unless the desire manifests itself out of my own
> free
> will (Condescendingly, "Let me help the downtrodden today."). This
> would probably be another thread topic. Maybe Aristotle can convince
> me to be more "pro-active"?!?!?!
>
> Hope you're not put off by my somewhat facetious literary style (In
> this forum, I promise not to become heavily sardonic)...Here's an
> example, I already lost interest in "man's" inhumanity to "woman"; I
> already know people suck, I saw the Rodney King tapes {"Why can't we
> jus' all git along???"}, but social responsibility is good topic.
>
> -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> - - - - - - - - -
>
> Obviously, I believe we're close on individual accountability and
> responsibility; it's the social part...
>
> How does this tie in with the topic {someone askeded??}?? The girl &
> the cops were each responsible for their own actions (yea, it's a
> stretch, but I'm really curious about this assumed social obligation
> thing....)
>
> if you're interested,
>
> K e v
>
>
> >
>

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2007-03-14T06:18:00.000-07:00

hmm irgendwie fehlt bei mir die mail ganz

denn ich habe jetzt diese hier bekommen

aber da ist kein anhang drann

kann ich die bitte noch einmal mit anhang

bekommen denn die musik die da drauf ist ist

genau das richtige

danke schön

knuddels Karin

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Von: laura1jane

Datum: 14.03.2007 13:54:36

An: tubenundbildersammelsucht@googlegroups.com

Betreff: [TuBsS] @M-Shares

Huhu

Leider wird nach einem Passwort gefragt

Lieben Gruß

Laura

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Von: Jess & Ela

Datum: 14.03.2007 09:19:40

An: incredigoodies@googlegroups.com; tubenundbildersammelsucht@googlegroups.com

Betreff: [TuBsS] M-Shares

Hallo!

Hier sind nun 100 Songs welche ich eigendlich sehr gerne höre, Jess weniger :-) , er steht da schon auf härteres.

Es sind über 450MB und hier kommt mal die Liste.

Wolfsheim - Kein Zurück

Wenn Ihr nur ein paar Songs haben wollt, gebt Bescheid, man kann sie ja dann so verschicken.

Die komplette .rar Datei findet ihr wie immer im Anhang, Pando läßt mal wieder grüßen.

Wir habe die Songs mit Winamp bearbeitet (Titel, Interpret) ob das nun auch so bei dem Media Player angezeigt wird können wir Euch nicht sagen, haben den schon lange runtergeworfen.

Ach und ein PW gibt es 100% nicht. :-)

Liebe Grüße Jess und Ela

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2007-03-14T06:03:00.000-07:00

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2007-03-14T06:02:00.000-07:00

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[Mind's Eye] Re: Shark fact

2007-03-14T05:40:00.000-07:00

Thank You, Lee. But I am a man, not a lady.

On 3/14/07, Lee <lee@rdfmedia.com> wrote:

damn Ian, she just did, do you not listen man? The shark, the shark!

On 12 Mar, 23:10, "Ian Pollard" < ian.poll...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 12/03/07, Erwin Donham <erwin.don...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Ian, do you need someone to help you pull your head out of your butt and see
> > tthe glory of God in nature?
>
> I don't see any God at all in nature. Could you give me some examples?
>
> xxxianxx
>
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>
> -- Vroomfondel

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Re: friendship with truth

2007-03-14T03:47:00.000-07:00

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On 3/8/07, Manas Kumar <manas.rohit@gmail.com> wrote:

i m manas 4m bangalore....i m basically frm ranchi

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2007-03-14T02:19:00.000-07:00

The girl in the blue looks like Ogura Yuuko but with a huge chest.

Whats her real name?

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[Mind's Eye] Re: Gender Equality

2007-03-13T16:59:00.000-07:00

Because, my befuddled little poster, your point had nothing to do with
the topic. Nothing at all. I was trying to assist you in finding a
place for it, since it was completely disconnected from the
conversation at hand, but clearly, being completely disconnected is
your normal state of being. So, don't worry about a new thread, but
don't forget to take your meds, mmmkay?

On 3/13/07, donnadonne <donnadonne@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Why should I? I was talking to you. You asked for a point. I gave you
> one.
>
> On Mar 13, 1:37 pm, DubiousChrisJ <digitalprecip...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Donnadonne,
> > since you are clearly on a different topic than everyone else in this
> > thread, albeit a worthy one, why don't you start a seperate thread to
> > address it?
> >
> > On 3/13/07, donnadonne <donnado...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > I'm sorry but what you are saying is ridiculous. I hope you don't
> > > seriously suggest that all people in whole wide world were good until
> > > 1933 the Nazi party came into power in Germany.
> > > I was talking about language and its mirroring function of
> > > sociohistorical processes.
> >
> > > But if you're into points, here is one you might like:
> >
> > > Thesis: WINSTON Churchill suggested the Jewish people were "partly
> > > responsible for the antagonism from which they suffer"
> >
> > >http://www.admin.cam.ac.uk/news/press/dpp/2007030901
> >
> > >http://news.scotsman.com/uk.cfm?id=385482007
> >
> > >http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/article2347525.ece
> >
> > > On Mar 13, 12:58 am, DubiousChrisJ <digitalprecip...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > From your link:
> >
> > > > 1326 (implied in scummer "shallow ladle for removing scum"), from
> > > > M.Du. schume "foam, froth," from P.Gmc. *skuma- (cf. O.N. skum, O.H.G.
> > > > scum, Ger. Schaum "foam, froth"), perhaps from PIE base *(s)keu- "to
> > > > cover, conceal" (see hide (n.1)). Sense deteriorated from "thin layer
> > > > atop liquid" to "film of dirt," then just "dirt." Meaning "lowest
> > > > class of humanity" is 1586; scum of the Earth is from 1712. Adopted in
> > > > Romanic, cf. O.Fr. escume, Mod.Fr. écume, Sp. escuma, It. schiuma.
> > > > Adj. scummy first attested 1577; transf. sense of "filthy,
> > > > disreputable" is recorded from 1932. Slang scumbag "condom" is from
> > > > 1967; meaning "despicable person" is from 1971.
> >
> > > > It gives a much older meaning, and it does not reference Nazis. The
> > > > Nazi party is not even considered to have begun until 1933.
> >
> > > > Do you have a point?
> >
> > > > On 3/12/07, donnadonne <donnado...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > Oh hideous hypocrites ... no man alive can kill the thread that has
> > > > > been spun.
> >
> > > > > It doesn't surprise me that you naturally assume that I have come
> > > > > unprepared. I'm fully aware though that donnadonne can be erased at
> > > > > any moment without notice and without being noticed.
> >
> > > > > Let's go through your findings first, if you don't mind.
> >
> > > > > The linked source that you suggest defines "common, vulgar,
> > > > > disreputable" as the basic meaning of the word "low-life". The basic
> > > > > meaning is not defined as "criminal". You misread. The criminal aspect
> > > > > of the meaning can be attained in and through its plural form. As its
> > > > > second meaning. As a result, you might say. Still that word alone
> > > > > didn't bother me more than many other politically incorrect words.
> >
> > > > > And now let me show you what I found for "scum":
> >
> > > > >http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=scum&searchmode=none
> >
> > > > > The main emphasis that your verbal exchange centers around here is the
> > > > > woman's reputation. In that sense it was first recorded in 1932. Thus
> > > > > the Nazi reference.
> >
> > > > > Unholy combinations.
> >
> > > > > On Mar 11, 11:31 pm, DubiousChrisJ <digitalprecip...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Oh lord...and thus, the thread is killed as someone brings in the
> > > > > > inimitable Nazi reference.
> >
> > > > > > First, Donnadonne, lowlife is a word invented in the 1700's which
> > > > > > basically means criminal.
> >
> > > > > >http://www.allwords.com/word-low-life.html
> >
> > > > > > Secondly, your baseless assumption that I am projecting, as opposed to
> > > > > > simply voicing my opinion on a topic I am very familiar with,
> > > > > > illustrates that you are not actually reasonably analyzing my posts,
> > > > > > but simply firing passive ad hominems. This immediately devalues
> > > > > > anything you have to say.
> >
> > > > > > Third, your attempt at patronization in the close of your statement
> > > > > > clearly displays your ignorance of the group in general, considering I
> > > > > > am one of the more veteran members here, and a list moderator.
> >
> > > > > > So, if you would like to discuss the socioeconomic factors which help
> > > > > > create inequities, than feel free to do so. If you want to instead act
> > > > > > like a smart ass child attempting to be witty and clever among adults,
> > > > > > then expect to be treated as such.
> >
> > > > > > On 3/11/07, donnadonne <donnado...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > The term "lowlife scum" is rooted in Nazi ideology. What you mean is
> > > > > > > probably some sort of projection problem you are working on. But feel
> > > > > > > free to say whatever is on your mind in your own words here in this
> > > > > > > group. You are amongst friends. What other facts would you like us to
> > > > > > > talk about?
> >
> > > > > > > On Mar 11, 7:02 pm, DubiousChrisJ <digitalprecip...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Now that we've heard all the standard responses about inequality and
> > > > > > > > racism, let's deal with the facts, shall we?
> >
> > > > > > > >http://www.guardian.co.uk/video/page/0,,2028548,00.html
> >
> > > > > > > > She's extremely aggressive, attempts to break away multiple times, and
> > > > > > > > in the action which culminated in her being struck, flexed so hard
> > > > > > > > that she knocked both herself and the arresting officer down the
> > > > > > > > stairs.
> >
> > > > > > > > I'm quick to decry abuse of government power, but I'm quicker to call
> > > > > > > > bullshit on those who use race and gender as a defense against the
> > > > > > > > consequences of their own actions. Inequity and inequality has truly
> > > > > > > > existed, and truly hurt and killed. For lowlife scum to attempt to use
> > > > > > > > these things as a reason for their treatment is sickening.
> >
> > > > > > > > What makes it worse is that Toni Comer has said that she believes she
> > > > > > > > had an epileptic fit which resulted in her resisting arrest. Watch the
> > > > > > > > video. Anyone who has ever seen an epileptic fit, or knows someone
> > > > > > > > with epilepsy, will be appalled.
> >
> > > > > > > > I think they should hit her again for lying and misrepresenting the
> > > > > > > > situation, and muddying the waters of true inequities.
> >
> > > > > > > > On 3/11/07, paradox <eadohe...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > > > Thank you K e v; should be interesting to see the follow-up on this...
> >
> > > > > > > > > On 11 Mar, 10:18, "kev" <kevir...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Gee, your thoughts above seem pretty coherent to me..Must be getting
> > > > > > > > > > my second wind!!!!
> >
> > > > > > > > > > That explanation deserves a "well said!!!!" and so I said...Sometimes
> > > > > > > > > > you find you like the way a person thinks; might not always agree, but
> > > > > > > > > > still you wanna hear what that person has to say......
> >
> > > > > > > > > > I like this forum,
> > > > > > > > > > K e v
> >
> > > > > > > > > > On Mar 11, 5:53 am, "paradox" <eadohe...@hotmail.com> wrote: (in part)
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Kev, laid out my thoughts on this to my reply post to KC, see above.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > You want to slow down a little with all that physical activity...;)
>
>
> >
>

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2007-03-13T16:49:00.001-07:00

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moonchilds PSP Linkliste: http://www.backflip.com/members/moonchildslinks
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[TuBsS] Fw: Goodies

2007-03-13T16:49:00.000-07:00

:: Liebe Grüße von Bianca ::
	:::: Meine Tutorials :::: :::: Meine Homepage :::: ::: Meine Photoshop Galerie ::: :::: Co - Owner :::: :::: Onkelz :::: :::: Eine Kerze ::::

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moonchilds PSP Linkliste: http://www.backflip.com/members/moonchildslinks
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[TuBsS] Fw: Goodies

2007-03-13T16:48:00.000-07:00

:: Liebe Grüße von Bianca ::
	:::: Meine Tutorials :::: :::: Meine Homepage :::: ::: Meine Photoshop Galerie ::: :::: Co - Owner :::: :::: Onkelz :::: :::: Eine Kerze ::::

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moonchilds PSP Linkliste: http://www.backflip.com/members/moonchildslinks
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[TuBsS] Fw: Tuben Hochzeit

2007-03-13T16:47:00.001-07:00

:: Liebe Grüße von Bianca ::
	:::: Meine Tutorials :::: :::: Meine Homepage :::: ::: Meine Photoshop Galerie ::: :::: Co - Owner :::: :::: Onkelz :::: :::: Eine Kerze ::::

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Erotiktuben: http://de.groups.yahoo.com/group/tubesundbildersammelsuchterotik

moonchilds PSP Linkliste: http://www.backflip.com/members/moonchildslinks
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[TuBsS] Fw:fantasy432***misted by chantal

2007-03-13T16:47:00.000-07:00

:: Liebe Grüße von Bianca ::
	:::: Meine Tutorials :::: :::: Meine Homepage :::: ::: Meine Photoshop Galerie ::: :::: Co - Owner :::: :::: Onkelz :::: :::: Eine Kerze ::::

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Erotiktuben: http://de.groups.yahoo.com/group/tubesundbildersammelsuchterotik

moonchilds PSP Linkliste: http://www.backflip.com/members/moonchildslinks
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[TuBsS] Gute Nacht Letterchen

[Mind's Eye] Re: Shark fact

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[Mind's Eye] Re: TRUST

17 new messages in 9 topics - digest

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[Mind's Eye] Re: The Great Global Warming Swindle

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[Mind's Eye] Re: The Great Global Warming Swindle

13 new messages in 13 topics - digest

asiangirlsonly= minako sawada ****

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Skin Treatment Guid - Plastic Surgery

[TuBsS] AW: [TuBsS] M-Shares

Atomic Bomb Test [ crazy video ]

fun unlimited Change our vision

Beautiful - Snapshots

fun unlimited Art on egg boxes

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<> ITC anybody

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<> M&M -- Edelweiss

<> LIC Housing Finance -- ENAM

[Softwares-Downloads] Re: request

[TuBsS] Kit Bordado

[తెలుగుబ్లాగు] doubt abt stat counter

<> Re: BIRLA TAX saver

[Softwares-Downloads] Re: Software: Microsoft Office 2007 Enterprise Keygen

Microsoft Office 2007 Enterprise Keygen

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24 new messages in 13 topics - digest

<> Re: Fwd: CNBC ...is the Next Anirudh Sethi in Making ?

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You are my one true friend!

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[Mind's Eye] Re: Gender Equality

[TuBsS] Betreff: [TuBsS] @M-Shares

[TuBsS] flowers

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[Mind's Eye] Re: Shark fact

Re: friendship with truth

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[Mind's Eye] Re: Gender Equality

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[TuBsS] Fw: BLING

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[TuBsS] Fw:fantasy432***misted by chantal

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